RE: the so fallible Bible
October 7, 2013 at 2:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2013 at 3:03 pm by Godscreated.)
(October 4, 2013 at 4:25 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote:
You can't give up something like free will, Paul said he would give his salvation up to save all others, yet he stated that would be impossible and why, because free will can't be given up. I'm sure Paul knows God far better than you, actually I believe I know what Paul's saying better than you do, try as you may you are stuck with your free will.

(October 4, 2013 at 4:27 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: What kind of free will argument can anyone make to explain all the starving children in Ethiopia being allowed to suffer when there's an all-loving god looking over them?
It is the spiritual needs God's concerned about, the world has made the problem of starving children and it's our responsibility to do something about it. There is enough money in the richer counties in this world to end all hunger, what are you doing to help?

(October 5, 2013 at 12:28 am)FallentoReason Wrote:Drich Wrote:Only God is perfect, is the bible God? Then why should it be perfect?
How does a perfect entity create an imperfect product? It indicates that the perfect entity was somehow incapable, or unknowing of how to do it perfectly, which only means it wasn't perfect to begin with.
I can't believe you are still hung up on this, as much as this has been discussed. God created a perfect universe and free will had to be a part of that perfection, free will is actually a strength and not a weakness as many look at it. Man turned it into his own weakness as an excuse to live a life separate from God, and that my friend is what happened to the perfect creation God turned over to man. Yes man was given a perfect gift and screwed it up.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.