RE: Lingvogeometry
October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
(This post was last modified: October 7, 2013 at 4:42 pm by Monolens.)
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: So, now people worship shit? Your ideas get crazier by the second.It is not my ideas.
All Americans use strong linguistic cliché: “Holy shit” and “Holy crap”. Ask them if they worship to shit.
My explanation you know. What is yours?
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: As for Ganesha - you better read the rest of the passage. His tilak symbolizes a third eye - again, not a crescent.What is third eye? Do you believe that people might have third eye?
Eye is another very common allegory for moon. Look at the Jesus ichty sign. It is eye. Egyptians, Slavs, Hindus, Masonry. Everybody refer to some sky related eye. What is it? Can you show the eye in the sky?
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: From an artist's flights of fancy that became popular. From a writer trying to write stories that'd make sense in context. All sorts of reasons, actually.Alright. So Hinduism is somebody’s fancy?
Then try to fancy some story, which will not be based on stuff you see around. Use your flight of fancy. Sure, you will not develop a sentence without using real objects in you story. Thus, even if ancient artist was developing the fancy story it was based on real objects he saw around.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: I think you are confusing simple with moronic. Wolves are associated with full moon primarily - not with new moon. If your hypothesis was correct and the connection came from bending your imagination backwards to see a crescent shape - then they'd be associated with new moon primarily - not full moon.Nope. I told you before. Association with full moon is the association with moon itself. As moon has two different shapes any association connects object both to new and full moon.
In Islamic traditions wolves are associated with new moon. Search google for this words and you will see that: wolf crescent moon
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: That's not very high. I see, you imagine all these connections because of your average IQ. My own rests comfortably within a variation of 145-160. To put it in simple terms - mine's bigger.Probably we talk about different kinds of test.
For example to join Mensa society the minimum accepted score on the Stanford-Binet is 132, while for the Cattell it is 148.
Mine is for Stanford-Binet and yours must be for Cattell test.
Despite of this, 145 and 160 are two completely different levels. If you have 145 it is good result. But if you really have 160 you are one of tens persons from all humanity.
But as I see how you solve simple logic tests you don’t have such high results. So don’t cheat.
Also your following text about MQ, from psychological point of view, roars that you are cheating
Couse when people are cheating they don’t fill comfortable and start to tell bullshit, which is not connected to the main story.
Watch “Lie to me” to understand it.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: Except they didn't know it was the moon eclipsing the sun. So, they were simply deifying the sun - not the moon.Why do you think they did not know? They were not stupid to see how moon is moving around the sky and understand that trajectory of moon and sun are crossed. And they were deifying the moon, which has the power to cover the sun.
Moon is an object associated with night and darkness. If sun was getting dark, first what they were thinking that night-god is taking it over.
What is the reason to deify an object, which is disappearing while being covered by some other dark object? Can you explain?
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote:There are no references in RigVeda to 12 periods days or Vedic geometry or astrology. The answer is much simpler than strange “seven hundred twenty sectors of imaginary circle joined in pairs together”(October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm)Monolens Wrote: Ok. But why you did not explain “twelve spokes” and “seven hundred twenty sons”?Hindu day was divided into 12 periods - instead of 24 hours - measured by the passage of sun. Thus, 12 spokes with one revolution marking a day. The 720 is a reference to Vedic geometry, where a full circle was divided in 720 parts - instead of 360 degrees - and astrology was based on that.
720 is 360 days joined with 360 nights – one year period.
12 – lunar months during one year.
Remember the quest:
“Formed with twelve spokes, by length of time, unweakened, rolls round the heaven this wheel of during Order “
The wheel of order which is rolling round the heaven is specific object they were seeing in the sky. It is moon without any doubt.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote:I said it means moon. Crescent is not moon. It is its geometrical shape. Do you understand the difference?(October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm)Monolens Wrote: Well. You must send this insight to google dictionary developers. As their dictionary counts कौमुदी (Kaumadi) to be translated as moonlight. They are wrong?No, you are wrong. You said it meant crescent. It doesn't.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: Wrong again. Jesus was called a shepherd - not a cowherd. So there is no connection to cows. Further, Jesus was being called a shepherd metaphorically - he wasn't actually herding sheep. Krishna, on the other hand, was literally herding cows.So what? Both guys were herds. Both connected to horned animals. Sheep horns has crescent shape.
SHeeP = SHiP. As I said before, ship due to its shape comes into many god related stories.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote:(October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm)Monolens Wrote: Crescent and horns are imaged on the coin. In text it is stated that Vishnu is imaged on coins. He is having horns there and crescent above his head.
Wiki is wrote for people smart enough to see themselves that there are crescent and horns. Why should it chew this simple things?
Anyway. How can you explain horns and crescent on Vishnu?
By telling you, again, that there are no crescent or horns. The wiki states pretty clearly that what's on his head are not crescents or horns. That certain deluded people see crescents and horns everywhere is not the wiki's fault.
Wiki states: Vasudeva Krishna in a decorated helmet
Quote were you have found it states the helmet has no crescent or horns.
Again posting a picture. Please explaine what kind of decoration has helmet of Vasudeva Krishna.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: No, you moron. Sikhs live in all those areas, which is why their particular headwear is prominent there. As for the rest - Sikhs living in India does not make them Hindus. No more than Buddhists, Jains, Muslims, Chritians, Parsis and Jews also living in India are not Hindus. As far as I know, Sikhism is not a moon religion. And I'm guessing, they'd laugh at the suggestion as well.Yeah. Sikhs magicly fallen down from the sky on territory of India
Let me point you attention on Sikhism main attributes:
There are 5 items associated with Sikhism:
kēs (uncut hair), kaṅghā (small wooden comb), kaṛā (circular steel or iron bracelet), kirpān (sword/dagger), and kacchera (special undergarment).
kēs is hair which grows all life long. Beard and mustache counted as kēs also. kēs is covered by turban with accented crescent or ball like shape.
HaiR = HaRe
BeaRD = BiRD
MuSTache = MeSyaC
kaṅghā – Crescent shaped comb.
KaNGha = KiNG
kaṛā (circular steel or iron bracelet) कड़ा – silver color round braslet.
Translation of word kaṛā gives good example of forecasting power of presented theory.
कड़ा – stiff, rigid, hard and Spartan.
Interesting, what is so special about Spartans. Google images give answer.
Spartans had V shape on their shields and crescent shape toupee.
kirpān – crescent shaped sword.
kacchera – V shaped trousers.
And their sign is Khanda, which has completely crescent shape when wore.
Not moon religion? Aha.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: The turban doesn't fit that shape.Then prove it. Show the difference between turban shape and crescent shape imaged.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: Wrong again. Ritual cockfight is a local phenomenon not specifically connected to religion itself. Thus, no connection.Listen to yourself: “Ritual cockfight is not connected to religion”
IT IS RITUAL! Ritual means related to religion. Moreover, it happens during religion festivals.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: When you publish your findings, could you include a footnote for other scientists to record their responses and post it on youtube? I love me a response video.Sure I will do it with time. And you are welcome with response.
(October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)genkaus Wrote: So, bulls have no connection to moon.Ok. I believe you understand the connection, but you have to defend your first point.
There is an example from Wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_bull
The Sumerian Epic of Gilgamesh depicts the killing by Gilgamesh and Enkidu of the Bull of Heaven, Gugalana, first husband of Ereshkigal, as an act of defiance of the gods. From the earliest times, the bull was lunar in Mesopotamia (its horns representing the crescent moon).[1]
1. Jules Cashford, The Moon: Myth and Image 2003, begins the section "Bull and cow" pp 102ff with the simple observation: “Other animals become epiphanies of the Moon because they look like the moon.... the sharp horns of a bull or cow were seen to match the pointed curve of the waxing and waning crescents so exactly that the powers of the one were attributed to the other, each gaining the other's potency as well as their own.”
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