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What Took Jesus So Long?
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RE: What Took Jesus So Long?
(October 7, 2013 at 4:14 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: So I guess the entire virgin birth thing
was nothing special?

It's always been an open question whether Jesus was literally born of a virgin I don't think it matters if he wasn't. The Catholic Church made it official dogma as Mary is almost on a par with Jesus in that but not until the 19th century.

Quote:Oh yeah, and the
part about Jesus™ being fully god
from birth must also not be a big deal?

Jesus was God manifested/incarnated physically into human life in some way that goes beyond human understanding. He and God were one and the same thing his words were the words of God, he wasn't speaking on behalf of God as a prophet. But Muslims and Jews obviously disagree with this so it is a matter of belief. It may possibly be mistaken but I don't think that automatically means atheism/naturalism can't be equally mistaken in it's assumption that God doesn't even exist just physical matter. I'd like to know how you know that.



Quote: @SoC, do you have a bank
account? If so then why, may I ask, are
you storing up for yourself treasures on
earth? Until christians fulfill their own
BS religious faith requirements they have
no right to ask me to have faith. Now please,
I've suffered you long enough. Kindly crawl
under a rock (Jesus™ maybe) and DIE!

I'm ascetic and non-materialist enough for someone who isn't a monk or a hermit I still have to survive in the world and contribute something to it. I'm not particularly wealthy and have very little desire for material and commercial crap I don't really need. You don't take any of that shit with you.

"1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
3 What profit hath a man of all his labor which he taketh under the sun?
4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full: unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
8 All things are full of labor; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after."

Well you get the idea anyway. You'll find similar teachings in most of the other religions when it comes to coveting material treasures on Earth. This is what Jesus himself has to say about it.

“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? 27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life[a]?

And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? 31 So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."

And Saint Paul says something to the effect that God knows you need the essentials of life.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.
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Messages In This Thread
What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Zazzy - October 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 7, 2013 at 4:15 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Zazzy - October 7, 2013 at 4:58 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by freedomfromforum - October 7, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 3:57 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Zazzy - October 7, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 4:02 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by freedomfromforum - October 7, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by freedomfromforum - October 7, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 5:11 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 4:44 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Drich - October 7, 2013 at 4:45 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by freedomfromforum - October 7, 2013 at 4:52 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 7, 2013 at 5:15 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Drich - October 7, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 7, 2013 at 6:02 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Godschild - October 8, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Drich - October 8, 2013 at 12:28 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by max-greece - October 7, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Crossless1 - October 7, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 5:23 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by max-greece - October 7, 2013 at 5:17 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 5:34 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Airyaman - October 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 5:45 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 6:06 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 6:37 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Ryantology - October 7, 2013 at 6:45 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 6:43 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 7, 2013 at 6:51 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Faith No More - October 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 7, 2013 at 7:02 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by ThomM - October 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 8, 2013 at 6:22 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 8, 2013 at 12:27 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by FallentoReason - October 8, 2013 at 6:37 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 8, 2013 at 6:42 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by FallentoReason - October 8, 2013 at 6:44 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 8, 2013 at 6:53 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by FallentoReason - October 8, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 8, 2013 at 4:56 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 7:01 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 8, 2013 at 7:14 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Captain Colostomy - October 8, 2013 at 7:21 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by max-greece - October 8, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Crossless1 - October 8, 2013 at 8:08 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by freedomfromforum - October 8, 2013 at 7:21 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Searching4truth - October 8, 2013 at 9:08 am
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Sword of Christ - October 8, 2013 at 5:49 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Beta Ray Bill - October 8, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Minimalist - October 8, 2013 at 6:41 pm
RE: What Took Jesus So Long? - by Searching4truth - October 8, 2013 at 7:53 pm

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