(October 8, 2013 at 3:42 pm)xpastor Wrote: Drich, I am quite sure that you understand in your heart that it is wrong and evil to cut a baby's throat.Depends on the baby. For instance if you had the oppertunity to cut baby hitler's throat would you, or would you let millions die? Now from God's vantage point, He can not only see the indivisuals like hitler, but also whole races of people who would prey on and destroy everyone else. Wouldn't god now be obligated to stop such a people from existing?
Quote: If you want to insult your own intelligence by claiming that it used to be OK when a god commanded it, I will not waste my time debating with you.Good then maybe you'll learn something about the selfrighteousness it takes to judge God to be in the wrong here.
Fore again from the perspective of a general or a power hungry man like hitler, he only has his or his country's intrest at heart, and not the good of everyone else. If God knows that a given race of people will spawn generation after generation of Hitler/Osama type of people, then it is on Him to do something about it. Having Israel destroy those people served two purposes. One it eliminated the threat and two it established the power and fear of God to the other people in a give region.
Quote:That was said AFTER I left the church. However, I revised my opinion still further when I read the kind of biblical scholarship they kept away from us in my seminary, and I learned that the supposed massacres of Israel's enemies were nothing but propaganda written hundreds of years after the supposed events.Do you have 'proof' or is this a faith based belief?
Quote:Right. The genocide of the Native Americans was terrible and despicable. And weren't those Christian Americans who killed them off?I don't believe 'religion' was a prerequsite for killing the indiginous americans. Not as it was with the Jews. Not to mention History records that they were European first, religious belief was not the motivating factor.. Resources, cotton tobacco, gold silver. these were the primary drivers. If one killed for these things then that person does not follow the teachings of Christ, so whether they were Christians or not is for Christ to decide.
This is not limited to what happened in the US, but Canada, mexico, central and south america as well. We all have the same kind of blood on our hands. The entire western hemisphere was discovered settled and thrives off the same principles in the bible you are condemning. If you can not see this not only are you a hypocrite, but a selectivly blind one as well.