the so fallible Bible

[John V]

Your an asshole because your dancing around the fact that your god choses not to do anything when it wouldn't cost him NOTHING to end it.I don't have the ability to reduce suffering because can barely get by on what little i have.Besides iam not a Divine being who supposdly created everything, so it actually isnt ur responsiblity to save everyone.

Hey, if you really don't care about those starving children, that's OK by me. But, if you go on about the Amelekites or slaves or whatever as if you do care about the fortunes of people you've never met, then my argument is fair.

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So you think it is wrong to have pleasure as well? It really tells. I suspect this will be a debate where you disagree with me based on the fact I do not think as you do.

No, I don't think it's wrong to have pleasure. I do think it's hypocritical to devote resources to pleasure while also claiming that it's monstrous to allow suffering.

No, I'm not. I'm saying there are multiple 'outs', and multiple methodologies that can be employed. simply throwing money at an issue with no attempt to remedy the context of said issue is not solving the issue. In fact in many times it's exacerbating it.

This is what's known as basic logic. If you simply cut back the leaves of a weed without cutting it out at the root, it will continue to grow. Same applies to poverty. You look at a person and they are starving. You then feed that man, and the next day he is starving, and he has told his friend you can give food. Now you have two men in the same situation, and you have doubled the logistical problems of continuing the methodology employed.

Far better to examine the root causes of the issue. Which are almost always sociological, political, economical, and often, religious (though not exclusively, naturally).

No dichotomy.

So people who agree with you, and who think it monstrous to allow suffering, can give their excess to such research and programs. Otherwise they're hypocrites.