(October 9, 2013 at 8:24 pm)Vincenzo "Vinny" G. Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 5:55 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I'm not going to put out all the evidence that exists and suggests that all conscious processes arise from the brain, just to have you then say they prove nothing...If the head of cognition and brain science at University of California San Diego VS Ramachandran, a best-selling atheist neuroscientist and one of the four horseman Sam Harris, leading psychologist Stephen Pinker, leading philosophers of mind David Chalmers and Thomas Nagel all believe what I'm saying is true.
It's pointless and a waste of my time.
Hence, I let you wait it out until such a time as someone does turn on.... skynet.
You think some two-bit internet atheist is going to convince me otherwise?
At the very least, what you can do is read on the position of some philosophers who disagree with qualia, like one of your own horsemen: Daniel Dennett in his book "Consciousness Explained".
So you're telling me that some philosophers, bound by their own biases, and neuroscientists, who are restricted to current diagnostics, can't discern how the conscious mind arises from brain electrical impulses?... cheeessssshhh.... I wonder why?
At the very least, I can do... nothing.