RE: the so fallible Bible
October 10, 2013 at 12:14 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2013 at 12:15 pm by John V.)
(October 10, 2013 at 11:35 am)xpastor Wrote: In my post which touched off this long side-debate, I did not accuse John V of hypocrisy. I just alluded to the adherents of the prosperity gospel who have swallowed the idea that God wants them to be rich, which is obviously in opposition to JC's command to "sell all that you have and give it to the poor." On reflection, I would not even call the prosperity gospellers hypocrites. The dumb bastards probably don't even realize there are Bible passages which contradict the verses they have been fed, mainly from Proverbs, by some sleazy televangelist.
Quote:I do not think John V is justified to call people hypocrites because they say they want to alleviate suffering but do not do the maximum which is theoretically possible for them.If people think it's monstrous to allow suffering, yet they allow suffering themselves and don't consider themselves monstrous, that's hypocrisy. I don't charge people with hypocrisy if they don't make the monstrous or a similarly strong charge.
Quote:It would result in a mental breakdown and the inability to give more.Giving money to the poor that would otherwise have been spent for booze, pot and video games would result in a mental breakdown? I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there, mmkay?
Quote:As for the responsibility of God, we must consider proportionality. If DT gave $1000 a year from his $40,000 income, that would be 2.5 per cent. Supposedly, John's God is infinitely powerful; if he devoted 2.5% of his infinite resources to eliminating suffering that would do the job.If DT could give $2,000 a year by simply cutting some unnecessary pleasures, but he doesn't, he's selfishly allowing others to suffer.
Quote:No, if there were a God, he would be responsible. Bart D. Ehrman, the prominent New Testament scholar turned agnostic made the following comment in his book God's Problem: How the Bible fails to answer our most important question—why we suffer.It answers that in Romans 9 and other places. Some people just don't like the answer.
(October 10, 2013 at 11:43 am)Minimalist Wrote: X-P you have learned a valuable lesson about our stable of theists. When confronted with a simple question such as:I already answered that one Minnie.
Quote:My first question for them is which Bible do you mean?
They will do whatever they can to derail the thread into their customary pseudo-philosophical bible babble so as to avoid facing the reality of the question.
