(January 25, 2010 at 2:36 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: You may not need an essay about how I feel about the music. But as far as I'm concerned it's relevant to the music because music is emotional and subjective (and of course, emotions are subjective). What I said was relevant. And your 'critical analysis' on the other hand that you gave me, I consider to be completely pointless. Being a musican and knowing the techniques of how to write and read music is completely different to how it simply sounds to your ear (whether you can write or read music or not), and to how that sound simply makes you feel.
1) I already know you like the music, you don't need to explain it
2) My analysis was not for anyone, you included, it's just what i like to do with music that i don't appreciate, and if anything, it makes it more profound when you understand all the parts and how they come together.
Quote:What I said was obvious of course, I like it... just because I like it because music is subjective and that's what I happen to like the sound of! But what you said I consider completely irrelevant altogether. That may be 'reasons' as far as your concerned of why you don't like it, but why should I care? How would I even be swayed by you? How can you call it 'critical' when it only applies to yourself and not me? Are you talking to yourself here? Or if you are responding to me then I don't see the point you see.
It was not intended to convince anyone of anything, i've already said this twice but you keep bringing it up.
And critical analysis is quantifying the parts of the music, it is a common technique. It does not just apply to me, it's not subjective, it is an analysis of what is happening in the music and when, it gives the piece shape and context. If you feel my analysis was wrong then find the part where i incorrectly quantified it and if you can prove i was wrong i will retract it. Again, critical analysis of music is not subjective, it is the process of identifying the progression of the elements in the music and the interactions between them. My conclusion from the analysis is subjective, but i've already stated that in this thread, so i really fail to see what your problem is.
Quote: Neither of the Orbital brothers even call themselves musicians so it makes even less sense to analyse their music that way. It's entirely about how it sounds to the listener.
Ok now that is something that is not subjective in any way. They are musicians, they make and perform music. It doesn't matter what they want to call themselves, they do not get to change the English language just to suit themselves.
Quote:I went on my subjective emotional rant because I was just really perplexed by your need to make a 'critical analysis' which is just white noise to me. What's that got to do with how it sounds to you and how it makes you feel?
FFS evie, I have already explained this, why i like to analyse music i'm not familiar with, it seems to me you aren't even reading my posts, you're just on a girlish little rant. Enjoy yourself.
Quote:(January 25, 2010 at 2:06 pm)theVOID Wrote: I might be a little confused here, but i thought discussion forums were a place for, ya know... all discussion, I must have missed the memo about peoples taste in music being off limits.
Of course it's not off limits. Please do continue if you so wish.
I understand that you understand that music is subjective, but then if that's the case why do you need to give your 'reasons' to other people when that cannot effect them if things sound different and feel different to them? It makes absolutely no sense to me but do as you will.
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I mostly dislike Orbital and gave reasoning for why based on an analysis, that being the progression and combinations of elements in their music does not appeal to me as a whole. I really don't care if you want to know why i dislike it or not, but i like to give reasons for why i came to my conclusion, so i did.
For the last time, i was not trying to convince anyone of anything, i analysed the music for my own benefit, so i could understand something about it beyond just listening to it once and making up my mind. I decided to write it down on the off chance anyone was interested in knowing a bit about the structure of the song or why i disliked it.
Now, if you don't mind, i am rather sick of repeating myself all because you came to an erroneous conclusion about my intentions.
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