RE: the so fallible Bible
October 10, 2013 at 4:46 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2013 at 5:14 pm by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(October 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm)John V Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Is a person an all powerful deity? I'm wondering why anyone would like something that has the power to love unconditionally but choses not to...especially when the object of its love are the things it created.How is love a function of power? Do you fail to love people because you're tired?
Why do you keep equating a human being to a supposedly all powerful deity that created humans?
Your version of god supposedly created love and the supposed parameters to which it can/could be used...
...and still genocides it's way through almost the entirety of its own creation. How is that in any way similar to a person who has never once admitted they're perfect failing to love everyone unconditionally, nor created every living thing?
Tell me where they're similar. Do it. Because I'm failing to see the equivalence.
(October 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm)John V Wrote:Quote:I have read the bible. It was a great read. I have a KJV in my bookshelf somewhere.Regardless, you have to love him, or you're like a father who beats and rapes his children.
And really, the god of the bible isn't so complex, or nuanced. Genocidal, though, by your own admission.
No I don't. Stop talking shit and making an equivalence between your imaginary friend who is a god (bracketing out the fact it doesn't exist) and a human being. One is by definition perfect, the other makes no such claims (unless they're insane).
(October 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm)John V Wrote:Quote:John says god is love, that's all.No, that's not all. Before he says god is love, he says god is light, and he is pure, and he is righteous. You ignore those in order to cling to your desired position.
No, it does. It's right there in black and white. Read your bible. How you interpret that is up for debate. Also, a god that is described as righteous but commits atrocities such as genoicde is anything but righteous. It is a murderer, and a rapist, and deserves nothing but derision. All those unborn children killed in the flood (which of course didn't happen).
Yeah, the biblical god certainly isn't love in any shape or form, is it?
(October 10, 2013 at 4:16 pm)John V Wrote:Quote:I have no reason to doubt the literalism of that statement...well...let's not go there. Your interpretation might be right...then again, it could be a load of bull.We've already been there, and your position is weak.
*sigh*
My 'position' is to doubt the love of a god (even if it is bestowed in certain circumstances) when it is the very same megalomaniacal genocide-inclined deity that supposedly created both the feeling itself and the rules to which it can be used.
The bible is entirely about interpretation. That's all it is.
'God sees value in suffering'. *sigh* so I guess by definition so do you, right?
Shame you've had to stoop to your god's level, John. I feel sorry for you.