Are you joking?

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

It seems that a lot of people in these forums are over optimistic.

Nice judgment call.

They seem to know so many things about God existence or God non existence without first having done the hard work and without having established the foundations in which these beliefs are based.

You're confusing two different points of view. Theists make positive claims to knowledge regarding the existence of gods. Atheists make no such claims regarding the non-existence of gods. The foundation of atheism is that there is neither evidence nor compelling arguments for the existence of gods. The foundation of theism is fear.

Nothing wrong with being optimistic provide you got something to stand on.

I'm not sure you fully grasp the meaning of the word 'optimistic'.

Unfortunately this optimism is based on almost nothing and therefore it is obvious that nothing much will come out.

Again, you're looking at this arsy-versy. Atheism is a negative position - it isn't up to atheists to 'prove' anything. It is as if Joe insists he has gnomes living at the bottom of his garden, and if Jim can't prove these gnomes don't exist, then they MUST exist. Until theists come up with either evidence or a compelling argument, atheism wins by default without doing anything.

People still ask what is the difference between the brain and the mind without even mentioning the I.

If by 'the I', you mean the awareness of self, you're dead wrong. This issue is part and parcel of the mind/brain debate.

How is possible to investigate about a possible cosmic mind (God) if we haven't got a clue about how our brain, mind and I works?

Don't limit yourself: It isn't possible to investigate God even WITH knowledge of the mind, brain, and awareness of self.

Are you joking?

You'll know when I'm joking, since I'll start off with the one about the three-balled Chinese rabbi and the wrestler's daughter.

And what about religions which people talk about?
Does anybody know how they born and what is the difference between religion and spirituality?

Religions are born out of fear, and the difference between religion and spirituality is mainly a tax-exemption.

Did Shiva, Krisna, Buddha, and Jesus were teaching spirituality or religions?

Accepting for the moment that these myth figures taught anything at all, I'd have to say they were teaching religion.

How do you understand whether God exist or not?

This the gnomes-in-the-garden problem again. I understand that gods do not exist because there is no reason for them to exist and no compelling evidence for them.

Let us not talk about philosophy given that none was able to explain what is the meaning.

I agree that philosophy isn't going to solve the gods issue, but so what? It happens to be a grand way to pass the time when it's too rainy to go out and there's nothing good on the tell.

Let us instead talk about something more simple and grow from there.

I suppose we could start with you - you seem fairly simple.

Boru