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Lingvogeometry
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RE: Lingvogeometry
(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: I did. They said no. Which must mean that the idea that they worship shit because shit is connected to moon must be yours.
Leave it. It is too complicated concept, possible only real Buddhists are able to perceive it.
That is why there is laughing Buddha. Do you know why he is laughing?
He is showing the moon to stupid human who sees only complex reality and misses most of important details.

[Image: laughing%20budda.jpg]

"The Devil is in the details"
Remember?
Russians say “The God is in the details”

Buddha is showing his teeth, which form recognizable shape.

[Image: rot2.jpg]

MouTH = MSS

Remember – “smile of god”?

Of course you will reply that laughing Buddha does not mean moon. As I told before, this is new theory, that means you now read something that you have never heard before.
Try to understand it not in terms what you know about gods from the books written by people who also never know a dime about it.
Try to use clear logic to connect yourself the described correlation.

For example you know this 3 facts:

1. Russians are famous with association with bear.
2. Bear is divine animal in Russian mythology.
3. Bears have special feature in their coloring. White crescent on black surface.

[Image: animals-asia-Annie_lg.jpg]

Is it possible to connect logically these three facts? And receive hypothesis that ancient people were identifying bear as a god due to well-known shape of usually observed object, which was that time being believed to be a god.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: You know what an eye is. You know what three is. Infer from that what a third eye would mean.
And once again, its not an allegory for moon. Jesus fish is not an eye. And the idea of third eye is prevalent in different cultures because it is an allegory for extra-ordinary perception not possible by two eyes. There is no eye in the sky.
Yes, eye is allegory of extra-ordinary perception. But why it is so?
Only because this kind of perception can be reached by eye? Or because something with extra-ordinary perception is looking like eye?
Do you know how to say “eye” in Chinese?
Moo.
And hieroglyph for this is 目
It looks like a stairs. Can you remind, where stairs are connected with eye in other cultures?
Americans, whose MoNey have image of flying eye and pyramid. Pyramid geometrically is stair.
[Image: pyramids.png]

Egyptians who were building such big stairs and whose symbol is symbol or Ra and Horus - EYE.
Zoroastrians who also were building such kind of structures called Zikurats.

Stair, star, Astrians, Easter, hotar (Vedic priest)

And Islam, even if its sound strange at this point. The word “Islam” is coming from word سلم which sounds like “SaLeMa” and is translated as "ladder, stairs".

Ladder = leader = lighter
Interesting?
But the most interesting is that Chinese translation of word “moon” is “月” Hieroglyph that also consists of stairs shape.
Tibetan Buddhists symbol is eyes, which they are putting on multistep mountain temples.
[Image: 513060__eyes-of-buddha-katmandu_p.jpg]
So many common patterns are forcing to assume common roots of above touched traditions.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: Every religion is somebody's fantasy. And they use stuff they see around them to make those fantasies all the time. The thing you seem ignorant of is that moon is not the only thing they see. Which is why saying things like "all religions are ultimately about the moon" is just stupid.
My conception sounds different:
All religions have common roots based on similar ultra-early belief. Consciously religions are not about moon, but their origin is similar and can be still recognized via correlation of used shapes.
Coming to our reception in such weighty form occured because moon was not (and is not) only visual object. Having many useful characteristics, it gave us ability to cognize surrounding world by comparing those characteristics with objects and events around.
It became etalon for many uses.
Speed, movement, circular turning, two very ergonomically advantageous shapes, light level, color (silver, black, red, yellow, even blue and green (in terms of young)

Mass (MSS) – moon is virtually of unchanged weight. Scales are unit for MeaSuring and its shape is crescent like.
[Image: WP3zKEmYBY0.jpg]

Concept of balance.
CouRT which goddess is Themis symbolized by scales, horn and having eyes accented. Remember who was Moses? Chief of court.
[Image: themis.png]

Concept of time.
Practically all religious structures are used to keep time and inform society.
Bells, currants, screams of muezzins, wall clocks.
TEMPles, CHuRCH (CiRCle, CouRT), Mosque (MSS), chapel, hour (hare, year), minute (month), CHRoNo (HoRN), century (santa), age (ox).
Basic calendars were lunar in any tradition. Even today billions of people live by them.

I don’t say that sun was absolutely useless or it does not have its role in development of humanity. However, the role of moon was significantly higher.
And I would like to correct existing misunderstanding in the world which caused humanity to be so unstable.
We must stop any religious wars as well as religions itself due to its common origin. Muslims, Christians, Buddhists, Hinduisms, Judes, everybody have completely same roots, coming from times where we all were united. It is time to understand this simple concept and unite humans in the name of our children.
They don’t have to live in society, where people fight with each other because of their relation to moon or sun.
We need to pass this stupid opposition and move together to the time, where much more complicated tasks expect us.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: The one I gave was through an invite sent to me to join Mensa.
Respect if it is so.
And sorry for annoyance.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: Except, Vedic calendar doesn't follow the Gregorian model of 12 months and ~360 days. Further, this is a prayer to Agni (fire) in the sky, which is undoubtedly the sun.
360 days can be counted without calendar. Lunar-solar calendar is combination of 360-370 days cycle with 12 lunar month cycle.
There are 12 months in Hindu lunar Calendar.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: Do you? You are the one who said "His symbol is कौमुदी kaumudī - crescent." And now you are backtracking. Try and remember that unlike verbal conversations, here I can show you where you lied.
Not lied. It is written in Wikipedia.
Shiva

санскр. कौमुदीkaumudī IAST, «полумесяц»

In Sanskrit it means moon light and even full moon day. This is the demonstration of moon duality.
Moon is moon whenever it is crescent or round. You cannot logically prove that full moon is not young moon.
If I will tell you: “there was a nice moon that time”, will you understand what moon did I mean.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: But both were not herds. Krishna was an actual cowherd whereas with Jesus, the reference was metaphorical. And there is no ship reference here with Jesus.
There was no Jesus or Krishna. This whole story is fantasy, allegory. But there is a connection in two points. 1. Both stories about god. 2. Both characters connected with horned animals.
These two connections cannot be ignored during the investigation of religions.
The same logic for example can be used for connecting god of alcohol with Dionysus Krishna, as Dionysus is also armed with flute and guess about its shape? It is doubled!

[Image: 5235713484_b5b782a996.jpg]

Remember that lunar god Soma is also mind changing drink?

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: The same place where it says "decorated helmet". If the representation had been of crescent or horns, the the description would've read "Vasudeva Krishna in a helmet decorated with horns and crescent". It doesn't, and no it isn't.
As for what that decoration actually signifies - try doing a bit of objective research into ancient Hindu art without your moon-glasses on. As long as you are seeing moon in everything, you won't figure out what those decorations are and any answer would result in you repeating "but that is connected to moon as well".
Ok. But you did not answer. What is that helmet decorated with? Name this decoration, please.
And the decoration of Tailand Buddhist temple.
[Image: horned_temple.png]

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: That's not a Khanda. This is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khanda_%28Sikh_symbol%29
And there is not crescent in there. Not moon religion. Aha.
[Image: khanda2.png]
It is same what I was showing you. But not wired to hat.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: You already did. You distorted the crescent shape and still couldn't make the turban shape fit in it.
It is called approximation. It does not have to fit point to point.

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: In the very first paragraph: "The bull, whether lunar as in Mesopotamia or solar as in India, is the subject of various other cultural and religious incarnations, "
Solar, as in associated with the sun, not moon.
Yes, there is. But this is misunderstanding mostly caused by 2000 years of prevailing “sunny” paradigm. Starting to check facts by yourself will let you understand that many connections are not so obvious and correct.
Just try to connect logically the bull and the sun. I believe you will need to brake Okkama rule by creating new entities.
However the moon can be connected by one 100% step as its shape can be found in image of cow.
[Image: holy_cow.jpg]

(October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am)genkaus Wrote: Specific to the subject of this part of the thread - there is no sacred bull associated with Artemis - the goddess of moon - as indicated by the hellenistic and roman sections of the article.
You are the one who has to defend your point because you are making the claim that all bull appearances in all religions are allegories for moon and now, your own article proves you wrong.

So check Artemis symbols:
Bow and arrow
• Artemis' chariot was made of gold and was pulled by four golden horned deer
Harpoon – is horned fishing instrument. Fishing net.
Both symbols are connected with fish.
Lyre - musical instrument with horned shape.

[Image: Lyre.jpg]

The name Artemis (variants Arktemis, Arktemisa) is most likely related to Greek árktos ‘bear’ (from PIE *h₂ŕ̥tḱos), supported by the bear cult that the goddess had in Attica (Brauronia) and the Neolithic
I have already mentioned the role of bear and its connection to the moon.
Bear in Latin “uRSuS”. Remember that RuSSians are symbolized by bear?
And by the way bears are famous for its habit to catch and eat FISH!

Thank you for attention. Looking forward to hear your objective criticism.
Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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