(October 13, 2013 at 2:25 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:(October 13, 2013 at 8:36 am)themonkeyman Wrote: Hi Folks,
I came on this forum a few months ago and I have learned allot from both the Christians and atheists. A Good friend of mine is a Christian and his father is a Pastor. I haven't hung out with him since I told him I became an Atheist. Because when I did he fought me down and won the argument for God.
So In-order for me to strengthen my Belief -> UnBelief I am going to propose a few topics that I would ideally like to be challenged upon. I know deep down that the arguments that people here make will be correct. But I would like to see the tought pattern and process so I can learn from it.
My First Statement:
With all the wars / famines / earthquakes and tidal waves going on alongside all the Doom's day prophecy that seam to have stepped up a gear. What is to say that we are not indeed living in the end times according to several religions. The argument you can make is that this happened through out history however the undeniable truth is that for the Christian Bible account to be rendered true it must happen in several places and most importantly Israel and Palestine. Many of these events have occurred so does this prove God Correct?
Your Rebuttal:
If I'm not mistaken lots of things need to come to pass before the bible is fulfilled. For example jesus was supposed to return before the disciples died. If by your standard of evidence, one fail prophecy doesn't disprove the bible, then one correct prophecy doesn't prove it either. You can't have it both ways.
So what you're asking is, does this prove god correct. Well, are you saying this is all god is? That god is boiled down to one prophecy about Israel and Palestine? Then ok, that was a hit. But that's all there is. You cannot expand god to mean master of the universe/creator/whatever, those claims need to be substantiated as well. Unless you can show that all those properties are necessarily tied to correct prophecies, in which case as I've mentioned before, all failed prophecies disprove god.
And I think whoever wrote about Israel and Palestine in the bible weren't talking about what is going on right now, I think they had something much simpler in mind.
some tips :
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