Atheist vs Atheist

[themonkeyman]

Strengthen?
You either believe what other people tell you about the afterlife, or don't.
Do you believe them?

procaracas - I dont generally believe but these people who say there is a heaven and hell are the people I have trusted and knew my entire life so at times it really does feel that I am going out on a limb when they are so persuaded otherwise.

If I'm not mistaken lots of things need to come to pass before the bible is fulfilled. For example jesus was supposed to return before the disciples died. If by your standard of evidence, one fail prophecy doesn't disprove the bible, then one correct prophecy doesn't prove it either. You can't have it both ways.

Pineapple - You are correct in what you say however my response to this would be the fact that Science even now cannot disprove God and generally within science when we cannot prove or disprove something we leave it with a big question. Therefore based upon this God's existance cannot be proven either way so how can we say it is wrong.

How do we know that a prophecy has failed? Do we look behind in history and say it failed. Thats the same as science saying the speed of light is 200,000,000 + m/s then revising it later it is not a concrete definitave method to say that just because the timing is incorrect does not render the foregone conclusion incorrect.

Havent people constantly claiming we are in endtimes? They predict when it is going to end...the date passes and they claim they miscalculated. They try to make this calculation according to what was recorded in the bible in relation to this.

dgirl1986 - People have predicted the end times however one thing that is more visible now than there has been is the ability to connect dots quicker. Many moons ago people in different parts of the known world had localised events. But I am sure their endtimes views did not match up.

One thing of prominence is that more people were worried about the Myan Prophecy than they were about any other end times event.