RE: The Jesus Itinerary
October 14, 2013 at 7:16 am
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 7:37 am by Godscreated.)
John V, you can't have an intelligent discussion with him, he believes he has everything correct and no on else knows anything about scriptures. He believes they should have written the gospels the way he desires, he believes that they had to do a chronological and detailed writing. He doesn't understand that this is a spiritual gift to man, it's not a history book, was never intended to be a history book. He missed the point of the gospels, he doesn't realize they were written for us to come to know Christ and the salvation by grace He brought. He can't see it's a book of instruction for those who accept Christ as savior. When it comes to the Bible he is as blind as a bat.
GC
You should remember that Christ told them the Holy Spirit would help them to remember much of what happened, Christ did not say the Holy Spirit would tell them the exact words to pen down. We actually do not know how many writings were penned by the disciples, we only have the ones that survived and those could have been more one the side of notes to aid in their teaching than a book. Luke more than likely is the only one who wrote an account to recount the life of Christ and it's only a short story. I really do not believe they thought their writings would survive for 2000 years. Their focus was on the work of their day, what happened after they died was for others to carry on. To often people forget this is a spiritual matter and that was their concern, they understood the physical was short and a distraction to the spiritual, that is probably why they wrote what they did. They wanted those who became followers of Christ to have the important message He left them, life is in Christ, and the physical world will pull you away if you do not follow Christ's teachings.
GC
GC
(October 13, 2013 at 9:59 pm)Tonus Wrote:(October 13, 2013 at 3:26 pm)Drich Wrote: The whole itinerary seems to be based on the idea that all four gospels are trying to recount the same events in the life of Christ. What if the gospels are not meant convey the same set of stories, but to recount the events an author was privy to?But the gospels recount a number of events the author was not privy to, private conversations and meetings they were absent for, and the like. Some of them (Pilate's conversations with Jesus, the conversations and discussions among the pharisees on one or two occasions, etc) don't appear to have been witnessed by anyone who would want to pass the information on.
To me they read like a story where the writer is pretending to be a fly on the wall, and not as genuine eyewitness accounts. The impression is that they're compiled from rumors and stories and used to build a narrative, which would explain why they conform in some details and not others.
You should remember that Christ told them the Holy Spirit would help them to remember much of what happened, Christ did not say the Holy Spirit would tell them the exact words to pen down. We actually do not know how many writings were penned by the disciples, we only have the ones that survived and those could have been more one the side of notes to aid in their teaching than a book. Luke more than likely is the only one who wrote an account to recount the life of Christ and it's only a short story. I really do not believe they thought their writings would survive for 2000 years. Their focus was on the work of their day, what happened after they died was for others to carry on. To often people forget this is a spiritual matter and that was their concern, they understood the physical was short and a distraction to the spiritual, that is probably why they wrote what they did. They wanted those who became followers of Christ to have the important message He left them, life is in Christ, and the physical world will pull you away if you do not follow Christ's teachings.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.