(October 14, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote: Gee, this time i am a lot faster.Clearly you are an utter amateur. No doctor ever ONCE said the body and brains came to a "complete halt". You cannot find ONE place that is ever said, or claimed. I trust some doctors. Some doctors are barshit crazy, not unlike yourself. :p
Only 3 1/2 sec. to come up with an answer.
I never understood why they say NDE when in reality the body and mind come to a total halt as confirmed by DOCTORS.
Do you trust doctors?
If you don't then there is no point in arguing any longer.
(October 14, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote: We are all different and with these differences we go in the next dimension.All completely irrelevant. AND you actually just MADE MY POINT FOR ME. The POINT is, the JOURNEYS may be different, but the damn GOAL, if it really is the same, would be experienced as the same. That NEVER happens. People WHO CLAIM THEY GOT THERE, all saw shit, ONLY KNOWN IN THEIR OWN cultures. Capiche ? I doubt it. You missed the point entirely.
The roads to Rome are all different but when you and everybody else reach Rome then the reality is only one.
The same apply to our journey toward the goal of life which is the same for everyone.
So is the goal of life that is the same not the journey to it.
In other words it does not mean that when you leave your body you will experience the same thing as Paul or Jim.
It is up to your karma and the distance that separate you from the goal of life.
If you are a rapist or a murderer you will experience rats but if you are a good person you will see a lot of nice things.
At the end when the rapist will have paid his debt then also him will experience nice things.
Capish?
(October 14, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote:Exactly. Dead is dead. Not completely dead, is not completely dead. NO completely dead person EVER ONCE came came back, and described a NDE.I am afraid i need a translation.
What are you talking about?
(October 14, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote: Let the scientists keep with their experiments on rats and let the human being who had their NDE talk about their experience.Human beings INTERPRET their experiences, completely unreliably.
So far i rely on the experience of human beings.
It's proven over and over by Cognitive Neuro-science. With a de-oxygenated brain, ANYTHING is possible. It's called "hallucination".
(October 14, 2013 at 11:03 am)enrico Wrote: If the brain isn't working, then how do you explain that people remember their experiences during NDEs? Memory is clearly a brain function, so if the brain was non function, they people concerned would have no memory of the event (they would also be dead - non-functional brains never, EVER restart.THAT"S PRECISELY THE POINT. The brain IS working, partially, in a disabled state. You REALLY REALLY need a few science classes.
There is no memory without a brain. We really are done here. The epigenetics of memory is just beginning to be studied. Does your ass "remember" something ?
I was having a good day, until I was reminded of the COMPLETE state of utter ignorance some people operate in.
What is your education level ? What was the last Psych, or Biology class you took ?
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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