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The Problem of Natural Evil
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RE: The Problem of Natural Evil
Quote:And what's the criteria for necessity?

In order to hear the dog make the noises I like so much, it is necessary for me to skin it.

*shrug* Evil, like good, is positional and temporal. Fallible and imperfect moral agents (in this case, human beings) are unlikely to see all the ramifications of a particular act.

As to your specific objection, I'm unconvinced that any need for personal enjoyment is sufficient to over ride a particularly heinous act. Admittedly, I can not be sure that your pleasure doesn't outweigh the suffering of the dog, but so what? If that were the criteria used, we would never punish rapists, thrill-killers or paedophiles.

That being said, I agree that there is no hard and fast yardstick regarding necessity. There is a thought experiment which addresses this directly:

Alien beings arrive at the Earth and contact you, personally. They are able to convince you that they have a treatment which will end cancer, AIDS, and all birth defects. Clearly, this treatment will drastically reduce suffering among your fellow humans, and will, on balance, make the world a better, happier place. The kicker is that they won't release the details of this treatment until you torture a 5 year old child to death on world-wide television broadcast. What do you do?

My definition above is meant to be a working one, not a metaphysical certitude.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 1:35 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 6:57 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Chas - October 13, 2013 at 7:04 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 13, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Tartarus Sauce - October 13, 2013 at 11:27 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:02 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 8:06 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:26 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Drich - October 13, 2013 at 8:49 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 8:52 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Drich - October 13, 2013 at 9:00 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Captain Colostomy - October 13, 2013 at 9:05 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 13, 2013 at 9:10 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 13, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by IAmNotHere - October 13, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 14, 2013 at 5:30 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by IAmNotHere - October 14, 2013 at 11:18 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 14, 2013 at 5:46 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 14, 2013 at 6:12 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 15, 2013 at 12:18 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 16, 2013 at 5:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Neo-Scholastic - October 16, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 17, 2013 at 2:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Tonus - October 18, 2013 at 11:31 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by John V - October 18, 2013 at 11:19 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by Ryantology - October 18, 2013 at 11:43 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 14, 2013 at 7:23 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 6:30 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by ThomM - October 15, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 6:56 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 9:09 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 15, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by FallentoReason - October 15, 2013 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by genkaus - October 16, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: The Problem of Natural Evil - by freedomfromforum - October 18, 2013 at 11:48 am

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