(October 14, 2013 at 7:36 pm)Brian37 Wrote:You're still making the wrong connections. Minorities do share the rights of the majority, but since we're making the distinction of being a "majority" and "minority" they can never be equal. For example, a minority cannot dictate a national policy to suit their purposes, never. In this manner, they are not equal. Their rights and privilages are solely tied to the rights and privilages shared by the majority under current laws in a country.Quote:If they ask for more, I suggest that they get their own fucking state,
Translation, "Code for separate but equal". And "If you don't like it leave".
Please tell me how signing what amounts to be a law document that you get to sign, inheritance rights, and next of kin rights give them more rights than you? No that is the SAME rights you have, not more rights.
Now if they were publicly protesting to make laws forcing you to marry the same sex, then you'd have a case. Or if they passed laws banning you from having a heterosexual marriage, then they would be asking for more rights. But only an idiot thinks they want more rights than any other person.
This simply amounts to you being a childish brat with the same stupid fear born out of ignorance, yours, not theirs.
And yes, to the second one, it is as simple as that. History shows that the minorities only possess rights and privilages as much as the majority allows them to have. If they wish for more, that does not suit with the needs and of course the interests of the majority, they can very well leave, if they like or not. For example, our minorities love our country, because they do know that no one would put up with their shit for as long as we have done, but they still want us to bow to their demands, to which I say, "My way, or the highway.". Not "like it or leave it.".
Now to your points:
Quote:Please tell me how signing what amounts to be a law document that you get to sign, inheritance rights, and next of kin rights give them more rights than you? No that is the SAME rights you have, not more rights.You're again using fancy words to cloud what you really want to say. Inheritance rights? Next of kin? These can be provided to them under a different context, if they would bother to actually compromise, while they want that marriage be re-defined, and the society, that is built upon family, and by proxy, marriage, be re-defined to suit their "sexual preferences".
Since they never even bother to bring their case to the majority in a respectful manner and use the same tactics that you use, as though as we both don't know what "LGBT activists" want from the public.
They want everything, ranging from not only marriage, but to adoptions, to the equal existence of homosexuality in society alongside heterosexuality, or even more.
This means to re-define culture, traditions and social connections that things such as family, marriage and child-bearing and raising to fit to the specifications of homosexuals. And again, I'm not excluding other minorities who come up with things that will change the laws and workings of a country to suit their needs and their needs alone.
So indeed, my point still stands.
Quote:Now if they were publicly protesting to make laws forcing you to marry the same sex, then you'd have a case.No. If they were the majority, they would be able to make a law such as that. As a minority, they cannot do this in the first place, so why really make such a stupid statement? Instead, they are forcing me to change marriage to fit their specifications.
Quote:Or if they passed laws banning you from having a heterosexual marriage, then they would be asking for more rights. But only an idiot thinks they want more rights than any other person.Well, marriage was not open to them. Marriage defines a legal union between a man and a woman only, the only way a humans can procreate. Which means, it was there to provide a basis for the family.
These definitions are there in place by the means of culture and traditions.
You want that all of these be changed in order to appease a single minority. You want the same culture and traditions that define marriage and family to be trampled underfoot so that you can exalt your artificial minority, to make it "normal".
Quote:This simply amounts to you being a childish brat with the same stupid fear born out of ignorance, yours, not theirs.I'm not afraid, really. People will eventually rise up and stop the distortion of their values, culture and traditions at the expense of their rights as the majority. And things such as marriage and family are the rights of the people who constitute the majority. Those who fit into the type of marriage that has defined family and social acceptanced unions for years.
Gays are laying claim on something that isn't theirs, in fact, they want a share in a company they didn't invest in. It is theft, in a manner of speaking.
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