Are you joking?

[Little Rik]

'enrico Wrote: If the brain isn't working, then how do you explain that people remember their experiences during NDEs? Memory is clearly a brain function, so if the brain was non function, they people concerned would have no memory of the event (they would also be dead - non-functional brains never, EVER restart.'

Erm...actually, I wrote that, not enrico.
Boru

Some people get so excited that they tend to shoot the first guy they see around.
It does not matter if that guy is innocent or not.

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Got any verified accounts for these events?

I have read about NDE on books and on the net so i have a good idea about these experiences.

In the meantime consider the following:
In a series of operating rooms around the world digital counters have been set-up. For each operation performed the counter in the room produces a random 3 digit number. The counters point upwards towards the ceiling and are usually concealed.
To date no-one who has claimed to have an NDE has even mentioned the counters - let alone reported the random number accurately.

Your limitations are evident.
In nature things get done for a reason.
If something is not important they do not get done.
NDE experiences are there to teach not to give something that is not important for the spiritual progress like the things that you are talking about so if the knowledge of these counters do not lead to spiritual progress it is obvious that they will not be taken in any consideration.

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Gee, this time i am a lot faster.
Only 3 1/2 sec. to come up with an answer.

I never understood why they say NDE when in reality the body and mind come to a total halt as confirmed by DOCTORS.
Do you trust doctors?
If you don't then there is no point in arguing any longer.

Clearly you are an utter amateur. No doctor ever ONCE said the body and brains came to a "complete halt". You cannot find ONE place that is ever said, or claimed. I trust some doctors. Some doctors are barshit crazy, not unlike yourself. :p

We are all different and with these differences we go in the next dimension.
The roads to Rome are all different but when you and everybody else reach Rome then the reality is only one.
The same apply to our journey toward the goal of life which is the same for everyone.
So is the goal of life that is the same not the journey to it.
In other words it does not mean that when you leave your body you will experience the same thing as Paul or Jim.
It is up to your karma and the distance that separate you from the goal of life.
If you are a rapist or a murderer you will experience rats but if you are a good person you will see a lot of nice things.
At the end when the rapist will have paid his debt then also him will experience nice things.
Capish?

All completely irrelevant. AND you actually just MADE MY POINT FOR ME. The POINT is, the JOURNEYS may be different, but the damn GOAL, if it really is the same, would be experienced as the same. That NEVER happens. People WHO CLAIM THEY GOT THERE, all saw shit, ONLY KNOWN IN THEIR OWN cultures. Capiche ? I doubt it. You missed the point entirely.

I am afraid i need a translation.
What are you talking about?

Exactly. Dead is dead. Not completely dead, is not completely dead. NO completely dead person EVER ONCE came came back, and described a NDE.

Let the scientists keep with their experiments on rats and let the human being who had their NDE talk about their experience.
So far i rely on the experience of human beings.

Human beings INTERPRET their experiences, completely unreliably.
It's proven over and over by Cognitive Neuro-science. With a de-oxygenated brain, ANYTHING is possible. It's called "hallucination".

If the brain isn't working, then how do you explain that people remember their experiences during NDEs? Memory is clearly a brain function, so if the brain was non function, they people concerned would have no memory of the event (they would also be dead - non-functional brains never, EVER restart.

THAT"S PRECISELY THE POINT. The brain IS working, partially, in a disabled state. You REALLY REALLY need a few science classes.
There is no memory without a brain. We really are done here. The epigenetics of memory is just beginning to be studied. Does your ass "remember" something ?
I was having a good day, until I was reminded of the COMPLETE state of utter ignorance some people operate in.
What is your education level ? What was the last Psych, or Biology class you took ?

You are bubbling dogma after dogma.
Can you explain how is possible that many NDE experimenters have seen things inside rooms which they never been before and describe them after their NDE ?
How could they if their eyes and their brains were not working?

Take your time mate, i am not in a hurry.