(October 13, 2013 at 3:31 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Or does "real world" only mean things you can poke with a stick? If so, math itself doesn't exist. You're not saying that, are you?Um, yes, that's exactly what I've already said. Numbers are not real quantifiable things, and although we can draw comparison between positive numbers in real life, we cannot do that with negative quantities.
Quote:That's money that you used to have, but no longer have.I'm not arguing that you can't negative from your quantity of real money, I'm stating a simple fact: you cannot hold a negative quantity of anything physically in your hand. A bond isn't money and it isn't negative money, and money isn't a bond or a negative bond, you're just deciding to use them as opposites for your example.
Let me ask you this, when you are in debt who has the bond - you or the bank? Can you withdraw the bond from an ATM and have money go IN to your account by doing so?
Money is real, debt isn't. If you think that debt is as real as money then explain to me how the GFC happened...
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The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke