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Lingvogeometry
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RE: Lingvogeometry
(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: Laughing Buddha is laughing to signify happiness and contentment - not because the shape of his mouth can be convoluted to mean moon.
You can stay in this happy delusion if you want. For you Buddha is laughing because he is happy. However, Buddhists know very well, what exactly they do while laughing. It is simple neuro lingustis programming in order to have a possibility to MaNipulate. And it works 100% as it is passed by your conscious without distrust.

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: The Chinese word for eye is "yanjing". It's hieroglyph is more complicated than the one you gave. It has no relation to stairs or to moon.
You mean this one: 眼睛
Its having even two stairs. Don’t you see that?
And this one目is eye also. Check Wiktionary http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/目

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: That being said, the recurrence if "eye" in different mythologies is not surprising because gods are typically regarded as being able to see more than mortals. Also common is building tall monuments to those gods and having stairs in them is also expected.
The actual reasons for these recurring elements are much simpler and more sensible than your crazy moon hypothesis.
Ok. And what is that simple reason to build stair structures dedicated to gods in every part of the world?

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: The ideas about courts and justice have nothing whatsoever to do with the moon.
So why there are many symbols left by ancients which connect this two concepts?
Why moon is written together with scales what are the symbol of justice?

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: Try reading up a bit on Vedic astronomy before making these claims.

I did: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_astronomy
The oldest system, in many respects the basis of the classical one, is known from texts of about 1000 BCE. It divides an approximate solar year of 360 days into 12 lunar months of 27 (according to the early Vedic text Taittirīya Saṃhitā 4.4.10.1–3) or 28 (according to theAtharvaveda, the fourth of the Vedas, 19.7.1.) days. The resulting discrepancy was resolved by the intercalation of a leap month every 60 months. Time was reckoned by the position marked off in constellations on the ecliptic in which the Moon rises daily in the course of one lunation (the period from New Moon to New Moon) and the Sun rises monthly in the course of one year. These constellations (nakṣatra) each measure an arc of 13° 20′ of the ecliptic circle. The positions of the Moon were directly observable, and those of the Sun inferred from the Moon's position at Full Moon, when the Sun is on the opposite side of the Moon.

So 12 lunar months. Time, which is reckoned by the position of moon. And start of year on first new moon after solstice.
It is lunar calendar. Same was used everywhere. Sun is used only one time a year, but for those who can count to 13 it is also useless. Every 13th moon the new year is coming.
What was wrong in my claim?

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: Like I said, I'll tell you what decorations they represent once you do some objective research into Hindu art. Right now, all you are going to see is "moon", "moon", "crescent", "moon" etc. Whatever answer I give you, your reply would be "but that is a symbol for moon too". So, try to figure that one out on your own first.
Same from your side. Whatever I give you is “not moon”, “not crescent” and “horns have no connection with moon”
For you complex explanation that lunar deity is having a bow because she is a hunter is ok. But simple explanation that artist was representing the shape of deity via the shape of its symbol, seems insane. Just because it is not written in books.
It reminds me the situation with Giordano Bruno.
His geometrical calculations were giving an answer that Earth is turning around the Sun. But church and books of that time had an opposite position fantasied by ancient stupid guys.
Giordano Bruno was killed, but now everybody knows he was correct.
Same with you. You are ready to call insane person, which you even don’t know, who is telling you the result of complex mathematic modelling, just because it is not stated in books fantasied by ancient stupid people. I don’t mean they were stupid, but they did not have that knowledge base and computing power, which is available now.
Think about it. Many ancient concepts appear to be wrong. Even not ancient.
Hundred years ago, people were sure that arsenic helps for many diseases. Try to assure somebody now that it is, and prove it by using only hundred years old book.
People will call you stupid.
But you seriously want to prove your position about god issues using thousand years books and knowledge.
The world is changing quickly. If you cannot think by your own head and analyze the situation with fresh mind, you are doomed to chew somebody’s old chewing gum without a chance to understand the history and reality.

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: And once you see it without being wired to the hat, you should realize that there is no moon there.
Agree. But it is used only being wired to the hat. And that’s when the crescent comes up.

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote:
(October 12, 2013 at 2:01 pm)Monolens Wrote: It is called approximation. It does not have to fit point to point.
And if it was supposed to represent the moon, you would not have to approximate.
For me it is clear without any approximation that both shapes are similar.
It is same if you will ask me to tell what is on image below and I will tell you that for sure it is not an apple as its shape slightly different from the shape of an apple.
[Image: apple-logo.jpg]
I still wonder how did you pass IQ test, as there are many questions for using approximation and shape similarity. But I believe you and won't pedaling this issue again.

(October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am)genkaus Wrote: The connection between sun and bull can be as easily "logical" as your connection between moon and bull. A bull is "mighty". The sun is "mighty". No need to involve any visual cues.
In terms of ancient people EVERYTHING is mighty. The sun, the moon, the stars, the cow, the tree, the rain, the thunder, the ocean, the fire, the lion, the elephant, the kangaroo etc.
So why mighty sun is represented by bull? Why not kangaroo or alligator?
Why groups of people, who was disconnected from each other for thousands years, suddenly decided that bull represents the god?
And how easy to answer this question by telling that they all were observing the crescent moon, which was defined as god and they were connected it to the bull by similarity of shape of its horns with horns of crescent.

And I would like to remind you your categorical “moon has no connection with fish”
Just look at the symbols from this book. Are you still sure that there are no connections?
[Image: deer_fish_moon.png]
Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.
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Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 2:24 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Ryantology - September 24, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 24, 2013 at 3:00 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 25, 2013 at 1:28 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by CapnAwesome - September 24, 2013 at 3:20 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 24, 2013 at 6:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 26, 2013 at 2:25 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 6:02 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 27, 2013 at 1:44 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 27, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 27, 2013 at 9:51 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 28, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 9:15 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 28, 2013 at 6:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 4:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Vincenzo Vinny G. - September 29, 2013 at 2:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 2:13 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 28, 2013 at 8:02 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 24, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Doubting Thomas - September 25, 2013 at 3:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 26, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by gall - September 27, 2013 at 1:19 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Walking Void - September 27, 2013 at 1:34 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 10:51 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - September 29, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - September 29, 2013 at 11:39 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 29, 2013 at 11:54 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - September 29, 2013 at 12:33 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - September 29, 2013 at 1:48 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - September 30, 2013 at 12:50 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 1, 2013 at 1:52 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 2, 2013 at 3:02 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by max-greece - September 30, 2013 at 1:28 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 1, 2013 at 8:45 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 1, 2013 at 6:48 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by LastPoet - October 2, 2013 at 6:13 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Tonus - October 2, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by ManMachine - October 2, 2013 at 6:38 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 2, 2013 at 6:55 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by ManMachine - October 2, 2013 at 7:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 7:22 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by LastPoet - October 3, 2013 at 7:24 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 3, 2013 at 3:12 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 4, 2013 at 4:08 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 3:52 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 5, 2013 at 3:40 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 6, 2013 at 3:26 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 6, 2013 at 7:55 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 7, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 7, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 8, 2013 at 2:41 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 13, 2013 at 11:58 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 16, 2013 at 2:35 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 17, 2013 at 2:14 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 5:39 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:11 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Angrboda - October 3, 2013 at 3:30 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 4, 2013 at 2:31 am
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:21 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 8, 2013 at 1:38 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 8, 2013 at 1:49 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 2:34 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 12, 2013 at 5:17 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by genkaus - October 17, 2013 at 4:13 am
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Cyberman - October 17, 2013 at 2:37 pm
RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 3:40 pm
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RE: Lingvogeometry - by Monolens - October 17, 2013 at 3:56 pm
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