RE: The Good Samaritian
October 16, 2013 at 7:23 pm
(This post was last modified: October 16, 2013 at 7:41 pm by Drich.)
(October 16, 2013 at 9:32 am)max-greece Wrote: Mystified!!
The Good Samaritan Story was used to answer the question: "Who is my neighbour?" This was in the context of "Love your neighbour as yourself."
According to this interpretation you are instructed to love those that will do you a good turn.
That is a hugely disappointing interpretation.
Surely there has to be something in it along the lines of "Be a good neighbour?"
Jesus disappoints, again.
How so?
(October 16, 2013 at 9:39 am)Kayenneh Wrote:(October 16, 2013 at 9:32 am)max-greece Wrote: According to this interpretation you are instructed to love those that will do you a good turn.
That is a hugely disappointing interpretation.
I have to disagree to an extent. Though I find it a bit hypocritical too (though Drich can probably shed some light on the Christian point of view, if neighbourly love should be unconditional), I immediately think of Deidre's forgiveness thread. You can only be that forgiving and nice to someone, who constantly drains you of your resources without giving anything back. It's not like you have to keep a tally and the giving/receiving has to add up, but a too one sided relationship is taxing.
Unconditional love? No. The only condition is to love your neighbor as you yourself want to be loved.
(October 16, 2013 at 9:56 am)Waratah Wrote:(October 16, 2013 at 8:58 am)Drich Wrote: There was a discussion I had about the Good samaritian with one of you and I miss spoke when I said a neighbor is anyone in close proxcimity to you.How come you will not concede in the actually thread that we are discussing? I thought you did not want to talk anymore about your use of neighbour instead of friend.
Quote:Upon closer review of the message Jesus taught found in Luke 10, A neighbor is anyone willing to do you a kindness, no matter who it is if he knows you or not whether you are friends or not.The more you post the more lies come out. Your stated in this post that neighbour and friend means the same thing. Now you are saying that a neighbour does not have to be a friend. Please explain how you can say that these two words are he same. You are a liar.
Quote:http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...ersion=NIVDid the friend show pity on his friend who wanted loaves? No he did not give the loaves out of pity. Not a neighbour.
Say for instance if you go to your friends house in the middle of the night and you ask him for a loaf of bread and he says no, but you keep asking and keep seeking, and keep knocking on his door till he gives you bread, your 'bad friend' can still be considered a neighbor according to the parable Jesus taught.
Did the friend show mercy on his friend who wanted loaves? No he did not give the loaves through mercy. Not a neighbour.
Do you now see how your 'good samaritan parable' does not support your use of neighbour instead of friend?
You even agreed with me here
(October 14, 2013 at 10:47 am)Drich Wrote: Did the friend show mercy on his friend who wanted loaves? again what was done was not out of mercy. it was out of self intrest.
Quote:But for the sake of progressing any arguement I am willing to conceed the use of the word neighbor when the bible states the word friend.Don't do it for sake of progressing an argument, concede because you are wrong.
Get you ass back to the other thread and you can try again in answering this question.
Why did you insist saying it was a neighbour?
So far I have caught you in 3 lies on just this one issue.
Don't answer it here keep our discussion in "Evolution Trumps Creationism" thread. Do not spread this discussion into 5 threads.
English is your primary language is it not? Or is your primary some sort of aboriginal tribal thing?
(October 16, 2013 at 12:41 pm)max-greece Wrote: "Actually the story, (as explained by my Ivy League religion scholar instructors), was not about the *question* "who is my neighbor ?", but knowing the despised status of Samaritans in Galilean society, it was about acceptance of those seen as "other". The closest thing our culture used to have, similar to that, would have been ethnic minorities, and sexual minorities. The Christian cult failed abysmally to actually learn that lesson, and (just exactly like the Bible), the religious norms changed when the cultural norms changed. Religion sanctions culture. Culture does not sanction religion."
I think that just made it worse.....Go and do likewise - become Samaritan? Its not about the neighbourhood - its about the minorities. The answer isn't the answer to the question is an answer to another question that wasn't asked. My head hurts.
Does this mean Drich and Waratah are killing each other over the wrong thing?
Just a moment. Jesus didn't like the Samaritans either
Matthew 10: Jesus sends out the disciples to drive out evil spirits and the like and to spread the word but he tells them specifically:
"Do not go among the Gentiles, or enter any town of the Samaritans. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel...."
He didn't think the Samaritans were worth it apparently.
I still dont see the point here.
How is helping your neighbor a bad thing?
