(October 18, 2013 at 8:43 am)John V Wrote: Ignatius of Antioch lived ~35 - 110AD. His letters include quotations from both Matthew and Luke, as well as a number of other NT books.Wasn't he the early church father who thought Jesus was executed sometime during the reign of Trajan (circa 90 CE)? Or was he the one who thought Jesus was executed under Alexander Janiaus (circue 100 BCE)? I'll have to look that up but suffice to say there was much division in the early church on the details of the life of Jesus.
Quote:It's not a matter of speed. Again, you're committing the non sequitur and poisoning the well fallacies.It's a matter of you making wild assumptions and me providing you with examples of how those assumptions aren't supported by what we know.
Quote:You don't want to flesh it out because it would be exposed as a priori and poisoning the well fallacies.This is special pleading. You don't regard the Iliad as a historical document that confirms the existence of Zeus. Fanciful tales, however they may be set in a historical context, are not themselves historical documents.
As for your accusation of a priori assumptions, yes I assume naturalism, I've explained why this is the only logical stance to take and you must prove me wrong.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
