(October 18, 2013 at 9:27 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: Wasn't he the early church father who thought Jesus was executed sometime during the reign of Trajan (circa 90 CE)? Or was he the one who thought Jesus was executed under Alexander Janiaus (circue 100 BCE)?No and no.
Quote:I'll have to look that up but suffice to say there was much division in the early church on the details of the life of Jesus.IOW you need to introduce red herrings to try to dodge the point that the NT writings were circulated fairly quickly after they were written and people did indeed have Matthew to compare to Luke, yet didn't find them contradictory.
Quote:It's a matter of you making wild assumptions and me providing you with examples of how those assumptions aren't supported by what we know.Again, it's a non sequitur and poisoning the well to say that varying theological positions means that people didn't know mundane history.
Quote:This is special pleading. You don't regard the Iliad as a historical document that confirms the existence of Zeus. Fanciful tales, however they may be set in a historical context, are not themselves historical documents.I don't regard the Iliad as such because there's no evidence that the authors themselves regarded it as any more than fanciful tales. We do have evidence that the NT writers considered their works to represent actual events.
Quote:As for your accusation of a priori assumptions, yes I assume naturalism, I've explained why this is the only logical stance to take and you must prove me wrong.It's a philosophical position that can't be proven right or wrong. You're welcome to it, but many people won't simply accept it. You must know that, else you wouldn't bother trying to show contradictions.