RE: the so fallible Bible
October 21, 2013 at 7:03 am
(This post was last modified: October 21, 2013 at 7:05 am by Brakeman.)
(October 20, 2013 at 2:59 pm)John V Wrote:(October 20, 2013 at 2:51 pm)Brakeman Wrote: So you claim that Adam knew full well what was to befall him for eating the fruit? So why would a sane person do that? Could someone bribe you with an apple to commit murder if you knew perfectly well that your were going to get caught and viciously killed for it? If you knew perfectly that there was no chance whatsoever that you could avoid the resultant fate? This is not a "likely get caught scenario, this is a 100% pure choice. What balanced in the favor of eating the fruit in Adam's mind? What could have been so worth it if he knew full well the full and complete consequences?People do insane things. I've heard many atheists say that they wouldn't worship the god of the Bible even if given sufficient evidence of his existence. I believe them. Would that be insane?
Personally, I think Adam went along because he was afraid to be separated from Eve.
(October 20, 2013 at 2:27 pm)John V Wrote: Cool, so you're saying you've found another contradiction in the bible?No. Jesus' instructions for us aren't necessarily what he would do himself. I've never been a fan of WWJD for that reason.
Why would he be afraid of being separated from Eve when he wasn't told beforehand that they would have to leave as a consequence? If he knew full well about all consequences, he would have known that she would then die in a few years and be without her anyway. Adam could have asked for two hotter, bustier Eve's to replace the last one, he had plenty of ribs.
It is clear that Eve and Adam made an uninformed choice in the story because god didn't give them enough information and mental skills of right and wrong. Thus their choice would have be a mistake, not a willful disobedience. In the same way we don't hold the mentally retarded culpable for social rules, god should have similarly reacted, but he didn't. He was an asshole about it. He could have restarted the world to go back in time and re-educate them about their mistake, he could have removed the temptation. He didn't because he was a dick, pure and simple.
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