The Good Samaritian

[Drich]

The question is irrelevant. I don't make generalizations about people I don't know.

The question asked does make a difference on whether or not you make generalizations. It simply asks how do you know all who are atheist will die atheists? What I am trying to get at is I am here speaking to and answering the questions of those who maybe now are atheist, but will die a believer.

The fact that you changed your opinions is also irrelevant, and anecdotal, at most.

Show me where i changed my opinions.

What your brain tells you is/was a "call" exists ONLY in your brain. If the utterance : "For many are called. but few are CHOSEN" has any meaning content, it means your deity is capricious, and admits it.

That depends completely on why few are chosen. You assume all who are chosen show up. The possiablity remains that few who are called show up therefore few are chosen. You must demonstrate this not to be the case if you wish to legitmatly argue your intial point.

Quoting Babble stories to those who do not recognize their authority is a waste of time.

when a d-bag uses the bible to frame out an accusation to try and convict God of let say being 'capricious' they do indeed recognize the authority of the bible. They are simply dishonest in that they can hypocritically use the bible to fit their agenda but deny it when the same bible is used to defeat their 'biblically based' arguement.

If said douche bags completely did not recognise the bible then their arguement would be to demonstate God or any aspects of Him, but rather they always default to using the bible to make a point but refusing the bible when the same bible is used to defeat their points.

The parable (which was circulating in the ancient Near East before the gospels, and was not original to the gospels), is a nice story.

proof? any sort of reference? or am i just to take your word on faith?

Nothing more. No honest atheist can make an "honest choice" to affirm ("return to the Father" ... when they were NEVER THERE in the first place) that which she/he absolutely does NOT accept as truth. What you are suggesting is intellectually dishonest,

how so?

Nice, but it doesn't address the issue that was raised.

how so?

Christ offers no "choice" to those who honestly don't buy into any of the BS.

that in of itself is the choice being offered.

Jebus died, if he even existed, AFTER asking to have the cup removed from him, thus PROVING he and the Father WERE NOT ONE, because he was a common crook, and caused a ruckus in the temple, and there was a standing order in the Pax Romana to execute troublemakers.

then why did rome find him innocent, and left it to the jews to decide whether He lived or died?

There was no trial.

I agree where and the situation surrounding the judgement of Christ was not a trial in any understanding of the word.

The Sanhedrin was NEVER once in Jewish history called into session on Passover weekend.

Nor at night, untill they did, at which point was not a legal action so why record it?

The entire business of "needing to die" means your deity is SUBJECT to the very structure, in reality it supposedly created.

how so?

"Salvation" is a VERY non-Hebrew concept, and one that did NOT exist in Hebrew culture, ...see Martin Buber's "Good and Evil" part II). It was imported by Saul of Tarsus from Zoroastrianism/Mithraism. (Tarsus was a hotbed of Mithraism).

Actually Christ Himself spoke of salvation in several different parables. Wheat/ weeds, Wheat/ Chaff, Sheep/ goats, anytime there is a seperation between believers/followers of Christ and those who are cast out where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth etc, is where Christ Himself speaks of salvation or rather He is establishing the need for it..

That is what happens when you let websites like the one you referenced do all of your thinking for you... (you are proven wrong by the obvious, and made to look foolish.)

What other cliche's do you have for me?

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Nope. There are no "proofs".

proof of that statement would be?

Faith is a "virtue" and one of the "gifts of the Spirit", in your world, (see St. Paul).

Maybe you should actually read what Paul wrote in 1 cor 12 8&10, because he clearly states not all of us get the gifts he is mentioning. Some do indeed get faith, for everyone else 'proof' is needed. Or did you really believe doubting believers stopped with Thomas?

The entire business of "proofs" renders faith unnecessary.

Indeed! According to Christ all we need to have is the faith the size of a mustard seed then we can move mountains of doubt. (with proof) which means "faith" is not the fulcrum of Biblically Christianity you believe it to be.

It's an entirely non-Christian concept that was invented by Rationalists who also wanted to maintain that their faith was "rational", and that the way to know reality is possible by "Logic".

Sorry sport, the concept of proof was blazed by Christ Himself in Luke 11

That has been proven false. The universe is not "intuitive", as proven by Einstein (Relativity), Heisneberg, (Uncertainty), and Dirac, (see his math ...tensors and matrices, and that of others. The human brain evolved to deal with reality in a small bandwidth.

In order for this 'proof' to be valid Einstein and the others must have first established a link between God and what you believe they disproved.

The ONLY thing that is reliable, is EVIDENCE.

..and what better evidence of God than God?

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I noticed you did not post any links to threads nor did you mention the post number. so I guess we are to simply trust you have not cherry picked these passages out of context?

You can find it right here

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I am asking for my orginal post, do you have it or not?