RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 24, 2013 at 2:06 pm
(October 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm)John V Wrote: Hey Exlax: I already did. I gave a passage which clearly shows something that was not possible for god - effecting salvation in a manner other than the cross.
Okay, fair enough.
That said, I don't see how it applies to the initial argument here, given that a god that conforms to the events in the bible is still evidently powerful enough to alter the current situation with little thought.
Quote:You guys also need to consider if your position on omnipotence is ad hoc.
For instance, suppose an atheist argues that omniscience precludes free will, yadda yadda.
Christian responds: God's omniscient, which means he can do anything, so we can have free will despite omniscience, or even predestination.
Do you simply accept that application of omniscience?
No, but mostly because the response was phrased as a bare assertion, and I'm unlikely to take any of those at face value. You might not that, once you corrected me above, I acknowledged it and moved on right away; I don't think the argument has much bearing on things within this thread, but I accept you've got a basis for it. I was wrong, at least tentatively.
I mean, it could just be a contradiction.
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