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1 Corinthians 10:31
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RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31
(October 28, 2013 at 8:44 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(October 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: I agree, the analogy falls short. All analogies ultimately do.

"God is the evil queen" but the evil queen did not create her subjects.
Not attacking here, promise, just acknowledging the limitation of analogies.

But I have to disagree with you on the idea that God wants us to do all things to his glory just to get others to acknowledge Him. God does not seek acknowledgement. That would be incredibly petty. God seeks genuine relationships. Not because he needs them, but because He knows their true value. In asking us to do everything to His glory does several things, and they are all relationship based.

When we act towards His glory, we improve genuine relationships around us, with the people who we see as friends AND the people we see as enemies.

When we act towards His glory, we improve our relationship with ourselves, more ready to admit fault and admit we need help to be better. That it is a worthy pursuit to try to be a better person.

When we act towards His glory, we improve our relationship with Him, the One Who knows what is best and forgives without complaint. The One Who knows us better than we know ourselves

" love the lord your god with all your heart all your mind and all your strength" - Jesus Christ

The greatest commandment. Amen.
And the second is like it. Love your neighbor as you love yourself.

(October 28, 2013 at 8:48 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:
(October 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: When we act towards His glory, we improve genuine relationships around us, with the people who we see as friends AND the people we see as enemies.

When we act towards His glory, we improve our relationship with ourselves, more ready to admit fault and admit we need help to be better. That it is a worthy pursuit to try to be a better person.

When we act towards His glory, we improve our relationship with Him, the One Who knows what is best and forgives without complaint. The One Who knows us better than we know ourselves.

Rewrite...

When we aren't total assholes, we improve genuine relationships around us, with the people who we see as friends AND the people we see as enemies.

When we aren't complete narcissists, we improve our relationship with ourselves, more ready to admit fault and admit we need help to be better. That it is a worthy pursuit to try to be a better person.

When we aren't without compassion, we improve our relationship with our kind, the ones who know what is best and forgives, without complaint. The ones who know us even as we know ourselves.

All of these are possible without the need for a god.

Very well written.
and Absolutely possible, in a way, but you and I would both agree no small task.

But I was not talking about the necessity of God when it comes to these three tasks, I was asserting that the true and genuine love for God rolls all three into one, and this is God's intentions with us (as far as I understand them) - relationships. True and genuine.

God is not a narcissus seeking recognition, like a little kid saying "Look what I can do, Mommy!" He is asking us to get it right, and when we don't get it right, to admit that we didn't. Relationship building.

EDIT: And dang it if I don't have to attend to my two daughters now and cook them some dinner. No babies on the menu tonight, though. Sorry I have to leave it at that, but I will return! Great conversations!
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton
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1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 28, 2013 at 3:59 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Minimalist - October 28, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by John V - October 28, 2013 at 4:05 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 28, 2013 at 4:25 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by John V - October 28, 2013 at 4:30 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 28, 2013 at 4:39 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by John V - October 28, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 28, 2013 at 5:12 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by John V - October 29, 2013 at 8:30 am
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 29, 2013 at 10:58 am
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by MitchBenn - October 28, 2013 at 10:02 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Zen Badger - October 29, 2013 at 8:59 am
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 28, 2013 at 4:08 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by GodsRevolt - October 28, 2013 at 4:14 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Cinjin - October 28, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by GodsRevolt - October 28, 2013 at 8:39 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Lemonvariable72 - October 28, 2013 at 8:44 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by GodsRevolt - October 28, 2013 at 9:17 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 8:48 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Doubting Thomas - October 28, 2013 at 4:35 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by freedomfromforum - October 28, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - October 28, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Minimalist - October 28, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: 1 Corinthians 10:31 - by Drich - October 29, 2013 at 12:51 am

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