(October 25, 2013 at 1:36 am)paulpablo Wrote: The argument is basically saying the universe can't come from nothing because this is illogical because we have never seen anything come from nothing.I'm sorry but you are wrong
It is not an argument it is a proof
and it doesn't tell that the universe didn't come from nothing because we didn't see anything come from nothing, it is saying that it is contradicting to logic to have anything from nothing
Quote:But the alternative you're providing is even more illogical, a being that does exist outside of existence that has actions outside of time that take time and a being that also makes decisions outside of time.it depends on your definition of time
Also with no proof that the being is singular and has done this on its own.
If you use my definition which is a relation between two events then it does make sense