(October 29, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:I don't want to be interpreted as supporting Muslim Scholar's position, because I don't. But philosophically, I don't think this particular statement can be true. In the universe, when particles appear out of "nothing," there is something: the universe, space-time, reality, whatever you want to call it.(October 29, 2013 at 4:36 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Yes, I even proved that not just said it.Unfortunely, you can get something from nothing. It happens everywhere, all the time. Unlike your "logical proofs", this has been proven to be true
That's a lot of somethings to say a particle has appeared out of nothing. Or to put it another way, it's an equivocation to talk about the nothingness of space, and the absolute philosophical nothingness in which space and time do not "exist" (quotes because exist usually MEANS to be located in space and time)
