RE: The Jesus Itinerary
October 29, 2013 at 8:59 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2013 at 9:00 pm by DeistPaladin.)
Again, sorry for being slow and sporadic in my responses. Real life has been demanding of late.
No, I mean what I wrong. It's a historical (and contemporary) fact. Sorry this is inconvenient to your theology. The followers of John the Baptist to this day reject Jesus and insist that JtB was the messiah. Don't ask me how this is supposed to work since JtB didn't do what the messiah was supposed to but then again, neither did Jesus.
Again, no. Sorry this isn't convenient to your theology. The followers of JtB were rivals of the early Christians.
Or maybe it's all a load of crap, religious propaganda that the Muslims would later pull on Jesus.
But do go ahead and write your Fan Fic about the followers of JtB.
Do you agree the Koran "elevates" Jesus? When you understand why you don't, you understand a little more fully what the Christians did to JtB.
(October 28, 2013 at 8:25 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(October 27, 2013 at 12:34 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: …During the first few centuries CE, the early Christians were rivals of the followers of John the Baptist, known today as the Mandaens.
I think you have made a typo here.
Surely you mean… there were rivals. Not,…'they were' rivals.
No, I mean what I wrong. It's a historical (and contemporary) fact. Sorry this is inconvenient to your theology. The followers of John the Baptist to this day reject Jesus and insist that JtB was the messiah. Don't ask me how this is supposed to work since JtB didn't do what the messiah was supposed to but then again, neither did Jesus.
Quote:It is obviously false that all early Christians were automatically rivals of John the Baptist and/or his followers.
Again, no. Sorry this isn't convenient to your theology. The followers of JtB were rivals of the early Christians.
Quote:John the Baptist was in jail and executed. His followers were, therefore, obviously perplexed and fragmented.So perplexed that they forgot their leader repeatedly and overtly told them to follow Jesus, that he was but a forerunner?
Or maybe it's all a load of crap, religious propaganda that the Muslims would later pull on Jesus.
But do go ahead and write your Fan Fic about the followers of JtB.
Quote:But…..The followers of JtB rejected Jesus. That sounds like "against".
Jesus told His followers, whoever is not against us is for us.
Does that sound like a them and us paradigm?
Quote:John the Baptist is elevated by all four Gospels and by Jesus.Oh yes, JtB was "elevated" to being a good, submissive bitch-boy for Jesus. It's just like how the Koran and the Muslims "elevate" Jesus as the 2nd best prophet and a forerunner for Muhammad.
Jesus compares John to Elijah.
Yes, of course John is humble.
Do you agree the Koran "elevates" Jesus? When you understand why you don't, you understand a little more fully what the Christians did to JtB.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
