(October 28, 2013 at 3:50 am)Godschild Wrote: Jesus ministry never meet the expectations of the Jews because they were not paying attention to the prophecies written about Him, the same attitude that always got them into trouble with God in the OT.Jesus' ministry never met the expectations of the Jews because the messiah (or "Christ") was supposed to be a glorious warlord that would lead the Jews from bondage and their nation Israel to ultimate victory over their enemies. The messiah was not supposed to be a meek and mild lamb of god being sacrificed for our sins to save all of humanity, chosen people and otherwise. Furthermore, the very notion of the intercessor with the divine is wholly blasphemous to Jewish theology. One pursued a relationship with Yahweh, a god who was hardly out of reach to the heroes of the OT and a god who was insanely jealous and ceded the center stage to no one (the whole need for the nonsense of the Trinity was to weasel out of the intercessor-deity-in-a-monotheistic-religion conundrum). Neither did the Jews have any concept of Hell or salvation. The OT speaks of Sheol, or "the grave". Satan was a tempter working for Yahweh, not the bitter enemy since the time of creation.
There's a reason the Jews rejected all this crap. Christianity is not the successor to and fulfillment of Judaism. It's the bastard child of Judaism and Paganism. The maladjusted little brat grew up to hate both parents, in defiance of the 5th commandment, and tried to snuff both of them out.
Quote:Christ meant that Peter would be an early leader of the church,Which still would prove my point. This is not something that you would do for someone who is not already in your fold.
Quote:You are jumping to your own conclusions, you're not taking the scriptures as they are. Peter heard from Andrew that Jesus was the Messiah, Peter never acknowledges Jesus as the Son of God.Both verses say "the Christ". This means "anointed one" or "messiah".
By the way, if Jesus is Yahweh, how is he an anointed one? Did Yahweh anoint himself? Seems rather pointless, don't you think?
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
