RE: Christianity vs Atheism
October 29, 2013 at 10:37 pm
(This post was last modified: October 29, 2013 at 10:50 pm by Informative2016.)
(October 29, 2013 at 2:59 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: They are atheists because they look to themselves and find what they want to be true.
If that were the case, I'd believe much different things than I do now. So while it's easy for you to make assertions, backing them up has historically been lacking.
And Informative, when are you going to answer my Page 1 response? I already demonstrated the stupidity of your questions, so perhaps you're avoiding?
Any strong Christian thinker can back up the Bible based on it's historical validity. You on the other hand are not able to disprove the bible, no one has ever done it. And I answered everything you have stated on your first response, if you'd like to better restate your question I'd be more than happy to answer it.
(October 29, 2013 at 3:01 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 2:57 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: I would like to restate myself, I NEVER put words into anyone's mouth, if you read my philosophical statement correctly (based on the fact that this is a "philosophical" thread) you would understand the context of my statement. I'm stating that the mind is a powerful thing, by denying something a person has already acknowledged it, therefore it cannot be unreal because that would be contradictory.
I know what you THINK you meant, and I'm telling you, DO NOT put words in our member's mouths, even if you think you can justify it with an absurd illogical philosophical premise.
Once again, when you have the capacity of an actual adult, and if you have ANY knowledge of philosophy you'll understand the fact that I am NOT adding words into anyone's mouth. One, it's not Absurd, Anselm himself wrote claims that people are not able to disprove, which is why in one of his books he destroys the FOOL's argument because it is clearly not correct. I apologize for the fact that your mind has not reached the capacity to understand my statement.
(October 29, 2013 at 3:09 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: So by your "reasoning", if you deny my buddy Zeus, you have already acknowledged there is a Zeus. Correct or not?
Stop right there and confirm or deny.
It's not MY reasoning, I'm using an ACTUAL Philosopher's claims (Anselm) in order to state my question. I can actually back up my claims, instead of stating foolish posts like some ignorant person.
Yes, I acknowledge that there is a Zeus, but I KNOW that Zeus is pure Greek Mythology, and by this you can close the question the Zeus is in fact real. On the other hand, you cannot disprove the existence of God, and by Anselm's reasoning you have already acknowledged him. Read his book, he'll probably answer your questions just like he did the FOOL in his book.
(October 29, 2013 at 3:10 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 3:05 pm)Informative2016 Wrote: You may not believe in God, but by denying God or accepting that there is no God you have already acknowledged the fact that there is a God. You can not think of something and choose to deny it, your brain will not let you do that.
Says who??? You?
I just thought of a three-eyed sloth living on Pluto and guess what, my brain is capable of denying it's existence and understanding that it is not real.
Quote:And the Bible is evidence that there is a God everything within the Bible has been proven to have some sort of backing, for example the Bible is historically accurate with its writings. I would like to have a scholarly talk with you so I would appreciate no use in profanity. If that's all your mind can choose to comprehend then I'm afraid that your answers are inconclusive.
Wow, you are a deluded shut-in I think maybe. Just because you claim something to be so does not make it so.
If you're truly on a "philosophical" thread you'd understand the reasoning behind the statement. I myself am NOT claiming this, Anselm, one of the GREATEST Philosophical Thinkers wrote a book on this, and he himself had a scholarly talk with the FOOL in his book, who, like you stated such ignorant question that he was verbally destroyed by Anselm because his claims are invalid and ignorant. You can't argue with a person who is making stronger claims than you because you're making yourself to be ignorant.