Proving God Existence

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Quote:He said, "Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, He Who created them (from nothing): and I am a witness to this (Truth).

Muslim scholar wrote

It means that they didn't exist

It means the quran is saying god created something from nothing which is exactly what you said god couldn't do.

Even when the quran explicitly gives examples of god creating something from nothing several times.

Originator of the heavens and the earth. When He decrees a matter, He only says to it, "Be," and it is.

God didn't use a mechanism that we can understand to create things, it is just one action by himself

How can you say it's a mechanism we don't understand when the quran has explained the process right here, god can create something by just saying "be", not change something, not do an action and make something constant and static into something variable, none of these things you are trying to say.
It's plain and simple, the quran says several times god is the creator, the originator, he doesn't change things or use materials already there to make things he makes things from nothing.

But what you are saying is that god did not create everything he just manipulated what was already there which was static and made it variable.

This is what Logic mandates!

You're the first muslim I've spoke to that says logic mandates that god did not create everything.

It is very common in language to say nothing as a figure of speech,
like to say: "You are nothing" which means almost nothing or nothing compared to me

Are you actually at the point now where you're using the excuse that god was just using a "figure of speech"
It's supposed to be the perfect words from the most powerful being in existence and you're telling me it contains figures of speech, idioms and other imperfect methods of communication that can be interpreted wrongly, and it that it does this repeatedly everytime it says god created something from nothing?
The verse didn't even say "nothing in comparison to..." or anything of the sort.

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Do they not think deeply (in their ownselves) about themselves (how Allah created them from nothing, and similarly He will resurrect them)?

He said, "Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and the earth, He Who created them (from nothing): and I am a witness to this (Truth).

I found the following quote on an Islamic website,
http://www.quranmiracles.com/2011/03/we-...nothing-2/

Creator of the heavens and the earth from nothingness, He has only to say when He wills a thing, “Be,” and it is.(2:117)

The Arabic word “beda’a” means creation of something out of nothing. This word also connotes the fact that something is created not on a pattern previously designed of something but as a completely new entity having no precedence. The greatest marvel of the creation is the creation of all concepts out of nothing.

http://harunyahya.com/en/Articles/116019...-the-quran

God Created the Universe from Nothing

God creates everything, in the form and at the time that He chooses, without the use of any model and out of nothing.

Another website made by muslims who seem to know either more or less about what the quran is saying than you do because they've come away with a totally different idea than you.