Proving God Existence

[bennyboy]

do you honestly think you can come here and say "God is impossible" and expect me to prove God exists or it's impossible? I don't think so. you made the claim it's impossible for God to think and cause the universe without time, it is you who has to show that's correct. burden of proof is a 2 way street, you can't claim God is impossible and expect that claim not to be challenged.

Nice try. First of all, I never said God is impossible. In fact, I even gave an example in which I thought you might make a reasonable case for God's existence. I said your definition of God can't logically be true, because it violates the meaning of the words "think" and "create."

I know about thinking, because I can experience it: ideas fade in and out, mostly not of my own volition. I'm a witness to a dynamic virtual space where those ideas play off each other. Now, you say God is timeless. That means he does not have ideas fading in and out. He does not have a dynamic virtual space where his ideas play off each other, because change means time. He therefore does not think. But, you claim, God's thinking is very different than our thinking. No, it's not. It can't be. Because if it doesn't involve a flow of changing ideas (change requiring time, remember), it's not properly called thinking. It's something else.

Now, if you want to argue that God is, by definition, the embodiment of all necessary facts, then we can talk about that.