Proving God Existence

[bennyboy]

These are not variants of the idea of what it means to think. They are variants in the different concepts the word may represent.

If I say, "I think that boy's name is John," I'm not really formulating ideas about his name. I'm just stating an idea I hold about the person as the name pops into my mind.

If you are arguing that God is basically a name for platonic ideals, then you can use that definition. If you are arguing for a Judeo-Christian God who interacts with people in any way, you cannot.

you only show one use of the word think. there are others that don't imply ignorance. for example:
anticipate- to have as an expectation: we think we won't have any trouble.
reason- to exercise judgment, conception, or inference.
to have a view or opinion- God thinks of himself as supreme over all things.
approve- to view with satisfaction: God doesn't think highly of your actions.
all these are uses of the word think, as a verb BTW.

You are trying to say there can be thought outside of time. Therefore, you have to be talking about a definition which includes no processing or change of state. A timeless entity can't "anticipate," because prediction requires the possibility of a change of state. An all-knowing entity can't "reason," because reasoning means figuring out what you don't already know. An all-powerful entity can't "approve" and "disapprove" because those are different states, and time is required in order to have different states.

So let's stop playing this etymological goose-chase. YOU claim God is real, and can think. In what sense would you say a being outside time can think? Choose whatever definition you want of God, or of time, or of thinking, or of creating, and I'll respond to that-- because the Dictionary/Thesaurus game is losing its sparkle.