(November 6, 2013 at 1:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: You are trying to understand the nature of God my reasoning; Which is impossibleFixed that for you.
(November 6, 2013 at 1:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: The summary is that some attributes of God can be proved by logic (his existence is one of them)I've already shown you why that is not the case. Even if the first two arguments were sound (which they most definitely are not), The only thing you can directly infer from that is that the universe had a cause. Everything else is bare assertion.
(November 6, 2013 at 1:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I gave the proofNo you did not. You attempted to. It has been pointed out to you why your 'proofs' don't stand up to scrutiny
You have to either refute it or accept it.
(November 4, 2013 at 10:33 am)Rational AKD Wrote: the point is, if simultaneous causation is possible, there should be nothing wrong with the concept of God causing the universe. since you are the one raising the objection, it is your burden to prove simultaneous causation is impossible or that it can't exist without time.
Whether or not simultaneous causation is possible is irrelevant. There needs to be a time frame in which those events can occur. No time = no time frame = no event.
Going from state A to state B takes time. Without time there is no change of state. The is simply an unchanging, eternal moment.