Luke, you said: 'Hence your god is comprised of matter? Can this god therefore be manipulated like other matter? I know of no matter which is capable of thought, unless it is structed in a very specific way. To be capable of thought or desire, this force/matter must have a definate structure. If not, this force has no desires or thoughts and couldn't be the conscious creator of the universe. Therefore, it is just a type of matter which exists in many dimensions?'...........
This god must be comprised of something! What that something is I don't know and can't know. My brain is too limited to comprehend I would imagine. If something has always been, then it doesn't need to 'stay alive' like we do. We eat, sleep, reproduce. Everything about us is temporary. Our brains are a certain size and our bodies are structured so that we have limits in how we sense the universe around us. Maybe this god has got something like a brain. Maybe it is all brain if you like, it is all things, maybe?? And of course the 'matter' it is comprised of is indestructable, does not decay, is stable and 'complete'- it does not need to be recharged in any way???
You also said: 'In a universe previous to life, good only exists as a retrospective concept of the living. Star formation wasn't "good", it just "happened". When life could appreciate the stars, it was then seen as "good" because it enabled them to live. But had there been no life, there would be no "good" nor "bad". These things are interpretations made by living things.'
Remember I said maybe universes have always existed, therefore life has always existed and hence good, bad, etc.
You said: 'Is this a force or matter now? You are switchign between. And in what way does it "contain" those things? If it "contains" order, how is this expressed? How does this matter/force contain it? Or is it hardwired with the concepts? I'm failing to understand this part.'
It is both force, energy, matter (its incorruptible matter). It sends out energy to form 'big bangs' that give birth to our type of energy and our 'reality'. I don't understand it myself. I'm speculating remember.
'How does it create? Because you have told me it is matter which can exist in all dimensions? Where did the dimensions come form? If this matter created them, how did it do so if it is thoughtless, desireless matter? Did it have a choice in the creation? What did it DO to create these things?'
I've said that this god has 'form', or is comprised of a type of matter. It 'moves' through all dimensions which it has formed via big bangs. It is brain personified. It doesn't have to 'choose' as it is already doing it, creating life, energy, space. I can't really speculate much further than that....[/quote]
This god must be comprised of something! What that something is I don't know and can't know. My brain is too limited to comprehend I would imagine. If something has always been, then it doesn't need to 'stay alive' like we do. We eat, sleep, reproduce. Everything about us is temporary. Our brains are a certain size and our bodies are structured so that we have limits in how we sense the universe around us. Maybe this god has got something like a brain. Maybe it is all brain if you like, it is all things, maybe?? And of course the 'matter' it is comprised of is indestructable, does not decay, is stable and 'complete'- it does not need to be recharged in any way???
You also said: 'In a universe previous to life, good only exists as a retrospective concept of the living. Star formation wasn't "good", it just "happened". When life could appreciate the stars, it was then seen as "good" because it enabled them to live. But had there been no life, there would be no "good" nor "bad". These things are interpretations made by living things.'
Remember I said maybe universes have always existed, therefore life has always existed and hence good, bad, etc.
You said: 'Is this a force or matter now? You are switchign between. And in what way does it "contain" those things? If it "contains" order, how is this expressed? How does this matter/force contain it? Or is it hardwired with the concepts? I'm failing to understand this part.'
It is both force, energy, matter (its incorruptible matter). It sends out energy to form 'big bangs' that give birth to our type of energy and our 'reality'. I don't understand it myself. I'm speculating remember.
'How does it create? Because you have told me it is matter which can exist in all dimensions? Where did the dimensions come form? If this matter created them, how did it do so if it is thoughtless, desireless matter? Did it have a choice in the creation? What did it DO to create these things?'
I've said that this god has 'form', or is comprised of a type of matter. It 'moves' through all dimensions which it has formed via big bangs. It is brain personified. It doesn't have to 'choose' as it is already doing it, creating life, energy, space. I can't really speculate much further than that....[/quote]
"The eternal mystery of the world is its comprehensibility"
Albert Einstein
Albert Einstein