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Questions for theists
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RE: Questions for theists
(November 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm)ChildOfReason Wrote:
(November 8, 2013 at 5:20 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Why is the truth true? Why does 2+2=4?
I don't understand your question. (Hint - epistemology)
Thinking

Statements of fact in the bible are there for all to see.
If something in the bible is merely an opinion and can be disproven, then the counter-factuals can be presented.


A benevolent God punishes those who cause suffering. According to atheism/atheology, there is no afterlife consequence, no eschatology, no happily ever after, no Book of Apocalypse in which the cause of suffering is dealt with.

In what way is the bible truth?
Also, it is perfectly possible to be atheist and not cause suffering.

True or False?
An atheist parent who deliberately brings a child into a world where suffering is a fact - it is necessary for Darwinian survival - is directly responsible for the suffering of that child who, if they were not born, would not suffer.
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Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 7, 2013 at 8:28 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 10:19 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Doubting Thomas - November 7, 2013 at 10:23 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 10:27 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Crossless1 - November 7, 2013 at 11:23 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 11:51 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Crossless1 - November 7, 2013 at 12:22 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Simon Moon - November 7, 2013 at 1:49 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 7, 2013 at 10:08 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Ayen - November 7, 2013 at 12:08 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 12:31 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Ayen - November 7, 2013 at 1:06 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Drich - November 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Ayen - November 7, 2013 at 2:43 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by pocaracas - November 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Simon Moon - November 7, 2013 at 1:34 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by pocaracas - November 7, 2013 at 1:07 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by freedomfromforum - November 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 7, 2013 at 12:54 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 7, 2013 at 1:14 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by catfish - November 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Mister Agenda - November 8, 2013 at 1:59 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lemonvariable72 - November 7, 2013 at 1:41 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Anomalocaris - November 7, 2013 at 2:22 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Neo-Scholastic - November 7, 2013 at 2:55 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 7, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lemonvariable72 - November 8, 2013 at 1:39 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Neo-Scholastic - November 8, 2013 at 12:56 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by catfish - November 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 7, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Bob Kelso - November 7, 2013 at 10:43 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 8, 2013 at 3:00 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 8, 2013 at 5:20 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 8, 2013 at 7:17 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 8, 2013 at 8:31 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 8, 2013 at 8:50 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 8, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 12:54 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 9, 2013 at 1:11 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Lemonvariable72 - November 9, 2013 at 2:00 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 9, 2013 at 2:32 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 9, 2013 at 10:29 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 9, 2013 at 11:28 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 11:44 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 10, 2013 at 12:06 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 10, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 12, 2013 at 11:40 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Mister Agenda - November 11, 2013 at 4:13 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 8, 2013 at 7:50 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 9, 2013 at 6:13 am
RE: Questions for theists - by ChildOfReason - November 9, 2013 at 2:16 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 9, 2013 at 11:09 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 9, 2013 at 11:41 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 10, 2013 at 12:01 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:05 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 10, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 12:58 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 10, 2013 at 12:30 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 10, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Zen Badger - November 10, 2013 at 1:33 am
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 10, 2013 at 9:55 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 10, 2013 at 12:47 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Ayen - November 10, 2013 at 1:32 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Optimistic Mysanthrope - November 10, 2013 at 3:32 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 10, 2013 at 3:53 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 6:18 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 10, 2013 at 6:40 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 6:58 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by catfish - November 10, 2013 at 7:03 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 7:05 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by catfish - November 10, 2013 at 7:08 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 7:12 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 10, 2013 at 8:06 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 10, 2013 at 8:09 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by justin - November 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by TheBeardedDude - November 11, 2013 at 5:10 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by The Reality Salesman - November 11, 2013 at 6:08 pm
RE: Questions for theists - by Lion IRC - November 12, 2013 at 1:04 am
RE: Questions for theists - by Esquilax - November 12, 2013 at 2:00 am



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