RE: What is a god?
December 6, 2008 at 8:11 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2008 at 8:14 pm by LukeMC.)
(December 6, 2008 at 8:04 pm)CoxRox Wrote:(December 6, 2008 at 7:57 pm)LukeMC Wrote: I'm satisfied with those answers, now I just have to question this part
(December 6, 2008 at 7:48 pm)CoxRox Wrote: It is both force, energy, matter (its incorruptible matter). It sends out energy to form 'big bangs' that give birth to our type of energy and our 'reality'. I don't understand it myself. I'm speculating remember.
Why does it do this? What makes this force want to go around creating universes? If it always has been (infinite universes/times/etc) then it doesn't have any choice right? So it just kinda happens? With no purpose. Then is this "big-bang-creating" matter conscious at all? Its conscious would be useless, as it wouldn't be able to make any decision, as it has always been, always done, always the same, since ever. If you accept this idea, then is this really a benevolent, powerful, intelligent creator? Or just another type of matter, completel natural like all other matters, but unique in its properties?
I don't know why it creates universes. It's happening regardless of why and I don't think it's without purpose. We humans are full of purpose. The laws of the universe seem to have 'purpose'. Being or matter, or force or all? I don't know......
Bozo, why do you bother?
What purpose do we humans have other than the purposes which we set for ourselves?
The laws of the universe may "seem to have purpose" in the same way that the sun "seemed to be orbitting the earth". The question then being "well what would it look like if it were the earth orbitting the sun?". The answer being the same.
The two suppositions that there is purpose in us and the laws of the universe is very shakey. It would require that the creator gave these purposes. Does this creator give an individual purpose to every human being? Does it therefore have a plan for us? Does it care about us? And in giving us a "purpose", are we expected to fulfill it, or are we destined to? And with us having purpose, this would explain the benevolence of the force (I sound so jedi), or does it? What purpose do muslim extremists pose? Is their purpose part of a grander plan, such as increasing our awareness and forcing us to end religion? (as an example) And therefore are these lives basically a sacrifice? What purpose do our wars have? Is the force really benevolent if it have given us all a purpose and these purposes have led to so much pain and suffering?
(December 6, 2008 at 7:57 pm)bozo Wrote: Sorry to be negatoid, nice try, but if you think Daystar, Cox Rox and Psalmy are going to give you a straight answer to your premise...forget it. It fails.
I agree with you. But only for Daystar. Psalm 23 I'm not sure about, and as for CoxRox... it's going well
The purpose of this thread is mainly for people like CoxRox. those who are unsure, but willing to try find out. I can't imagine her "religious views" remaining "christian agnostic" for much longer.
