One of the articles, the first one, so it's very late here and I'm too lazy to access this through my school's library, and after reading the abstract I feel like it's not going to be that big a deal of a paper. I'll clarify.
Supposedly the highlight of this paper.
First concern is legitimate.
Second concern is ... I'll need to look into it in detail. Is it single but living with boyfriends? Because that would be quite similar to the situation a lot of gays and lesbians may find themselves in, living with their boyfriends/girlfriends, since at this time gays cannot yet get legally married in the US. So really, have to check out the papers one by one.
Third concern is kinda bullshit. If you've done these sort of population type (not the technical term, can't remember that term) studies, which I have, you'll know how difficult it is to recruit enough people to detect small changes in data. And it requires A LOT of people to the extent that sometimes it's just unreasonable to expect that to happen in reality. Because it is very difficult to call people, ask them to answer a whole bunch of questions about themselves which is going to take them about 15-20 mins and these people have kids and often don't get anything out of participating.
Fourth one is a blanket statement and I feel like they're saying that because of the statistical thing. But it could be true, often one study cannot fully substantiate such a huge claim (especially when you're studying actual human populations instead of doing experiments in a lab) it just adds to the pool of evidence. So. Yea.
In this case though, the website states their bias when they started the entire thing. And if you notice their wording, they do not say same sex parents, they say "mothers had lesbian relationships" and "fathers had gay relationships", now having a fling/flings is very different from having a stable partner helping you raise your kid. Then they compare it to "intact families". Which is like, wth? Are we excluding the heteros who got divorced now? Pretending that doesn't happen? But divorced families would be included in the homo groups because to qualify you just have to have had a homo relationship.
Anyway, it's late, won't look into more of it tonight. But I want to say that I think this is very bullshit. There are a lot of factors affecting parenthood. What works and what doesn't work. This is kind of like those types of studies that try to determine if any race is smarter than the rest. The question is, what the hell is the point? There is no point! Because the data you get is overly averaged there is such a huge overlap that it basically provides no real world relevance. Which is what people tend to miss when they're using numbers to push a point.
Quote:Highlights
► A 26 of 59 APA studies on same-sex parenting had no heterosexual comparison groups. ► In comparison studies, single mothers were often used as the hetero comparison group. ► No comparison study had the statistical power required to detect a small effect size. ► Definitive claims were not substantiated by the 59 published studies.
Supposedly the highlight of this paper.
First concern is legitimate.
Second concern is ... I'll need to look into it in detail. Is it single but living with boyfriends? Because that would be quite similar to the situation a lot of gays and lesbians may find themselves in, living with their boyfriends/girlfriends, since at this time gays cannot yet get legally married in the US. So really, have to check out the papers one by one.
Third concern is kinda bullshit. If you've done these sort of population type (not the technical term, can't remember that term) studies, which I have, you'll know how difficult it is to recruit enough people to detect small changes in data. And it requires A LOT of people to the extent that sometimes it's just unreasonable to expect that to happen in reality. Because it is very difficult to call people, ask them to answer a whole bunch of questions about themselves which is going to take them about 15-20 mins and these people have kids and often don't get anything out of participating.
Fourth one is a blanket statement and I feel like they're saying that because of the statistical thing. But it could be true, often one study cannot fully substantiate such a huge claim (especially when you're studying actual human populations instead of doing experiments in a lab) it just adds to the pool of evidence. So. Yea.
In this case though, the website states their bias when they started the entire thing. And if you notice their wording, they do not say same sex parents, they say "mothers had lesbian relationships" and "fathers had gay relationships", now having a fling/flings is very different from having a stable partner helping you raise your kid. Then they compare it to "intact families". Which is like, wth? Are we excluding the heteros who got divorced now? Pretending that doesn't happen? But divorced families would be included in the homo groups because to qualify you just have to have had a homo relationship.
Anyway, it's late, won't look into more of it tonight. But I want to say that I think this is very bullshit. There are a lot of factors affecting parenthood. What works and what doesn't work. This is kind of like those types of studies that try to determine if any race is smarter than the rest. The question is, what the hell is the point? There is no point! Because the data you get is overly averaged there is such a huge overlap that it basically provides no real world relevance. Which is what people tend to miss when they're using numbers to push a point.
