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Refuting fundamentalists
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RE: Refuting fundamentalists
(November 19, 2013 at 10:23 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: I simply state that being a good or bad parents isn't really relevant.
With homosexuals, it really isn't, for whether they are good or bad, they will never constitute the type of family that society prefers.

And you could make the same kind of argument about racial segregation years back. "What society prefers," isn't always what's right.

Quote:So I'd say that we ought to leave parenting to the people that constitute the desired candidates for parenthood, meaning, married heterosexual couples, who were blessed by nature with the ability to procreate, and have naturally been given the task of parenthood.

And the notion that social change for the better only occurs when we don't kowtow to what always has been and instead move toward what's actually right and equal, in accordance with factual accuracy means nothing to you, huh?

Quote:Well, no tradition is without basis.

Except that the basis only need be perception, and not reality: witchburning was a tradition because there was the perception that magic was real, when the reality was different. That's why the appeal to tradition is such an egocentric clusterfuck: you're completely disregarding the possibility that people could ever be wrong about anything, and ever need to change.

Quote:And as such, the tradition of parenthood and family has a basis. It simply comes down on your ability to accept it.

Does it? Got any more than a flat assertion?

Quote:It is due to the fact that you don't accept, nor respect these traditions that a significant portion of society opposes you, and the people you support.

Said the slaver to the abolitionist. Said the racist to the equal rights protestor. Said the misogynist to the suffragette. And so on, and so forth.
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Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 19, 2013 at 4:12 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Captain Colostomy - November 19, 2013 at 4:29 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by GodsRevolt - November 19, 2013 at 4:34 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Captain Colostomy - November 19, 2013 at 5:00 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by GodsRevolt - November 19, 2013 at 9:06 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 19, 2013 at 9:48 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Darkstar - November 20, 2013 at 12:08 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Darkstar - November 20, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Zazzy - November 20, 2013 at 9:44 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2013 at 5:28 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Doubting Thomas - November 20, 2013 at 6:55 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Captain Colostomy - November 20, 2013 at 5:43 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by GodsRevolt - November 20, 2013 at 5:58 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Minimalist - November 19, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 4:43 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 9:50 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 10:06 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Chas - November 20, 2013 at 1:26 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 10:15 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 19, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Psykhronic - November 19, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 10:27 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Psykhronic - November 19, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Silver - November 19, 2013 at 10:51 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 19, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Silver - November 19, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 19, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 11:38 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 19, 2013 at 11:45 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 11:57 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 20, 2013 at 12:03 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Zazzy - November 19, 2013 at 10:58 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 19, 2013 at 11:26 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 19, 2013 at 11:31 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 19, 2013 at 11:33 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 19, 2013 at 11:54 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 20, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 12:37 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 20, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 1:12 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Polaris - November 19, 2013 at 11:29 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 12:14 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 20, 2013 at 12:15 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Polaris - November 20, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 19, 2013 at 11:34 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 19, 2013 at 11:39 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 19, 2013 at 11:49 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 19, 2013 at 11:58 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 19, 2013 at 11:59 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 12:04 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 20, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 20, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Minimalist - November 20, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 20, 2013 at 12:16 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by kılıç_mehmet - November 20, 2013 at 12:19 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 20, 2013 at 12:56 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 20, 2013 at 1:01 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pineapplebunnybounce - November 20, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Lion IRC - November 20, 2013 at 2:24 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Mystical - November 20, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 20, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Captain Colostomy - November 20, 2013 at 6:15 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by GodsRevolt - November 20, 2013 at 6:35 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Esquilax - November 20, 2013 at 6:58 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Captain Colostomy - November 20, 2013 at 5:13 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by pocaracas - November 20, 2013 at 7:46 am
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Doubting Thomas - November 20, 2013 at 12:04 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Zazzy - November 20, 2013 at 12:36 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Doubting Thomas - November 20, 2013 at 1:23 pm
RE: Refuting fundamentalists - by Fidel_Castronaut - November 20, 2013 at 1:27 pm



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