(November 19, 2013 at 10:40 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote:(November 19, 2013 at 10:29 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: @Mehmet
It has a basis, therefore that basis is completely legitimate and should not be questioned in any way. Or something. Kay, I'll get around to taking your viewpoint as valid when you actually bother presenting anything worthwhile.
Well, you do question it, and don't think I did not. With questioning, I came to the conclusion that this is the type of family which is beneficial for society, while the "other type" is nothing more than a useless, unsustainable and unhealthy form of family that mocks the type of family that is beneficial for society.
And to be honest, that is its only use, and only purpose.
Yeah totally, because everyone who wants to live a free life as they have an absolute right to do----and raise kids--- is just doing it to mock your oppressive belief system. PUhleese.
Fun fact: in nature, without homosexuality then social species would not survive. Wrap that around your mind-butt. http://atheistforums.org/thread-19298-po...#pid544602
Here, here's some statistics on the rising rate of marriage failures in Turkey. You're from there, right? Excluding the fact that the """News report""" is chalked full of fallacy and apologetics (no wonder you're a biased bigot), it makes my point. Your "type of family beneficial for society" is a huge fabulous load of failure. Always has been, it's just you guys have been able to repress women into nonconsensual positions their entire lives, by blackmailing them emotionally, economically, and even with their freedoms.
DailyZamman Wrote:“Divorce rates keep rising in Turkey. However, there are also couples who stay in failed marriages due to familial and societal pressure, causing husbands or wives to stray. Marriage education is necessary to prevent divorce and facilitate healthy relationships for couples,'' Keçe notes, criticizing the Family and Social Policy Ministry for not making this education a legal requirement before marriage.
“The ministry says marriage is a ‘human right'; thus, education before marriage cannot become obligatory,” Keçe says. But he argues that if family is considered a sacred institution, then educating couples would do nothing but support that.
“The main reasons for divorce are, respectively, lack of communication, infidelity and economic concerns within the family,'' marriage expert İnci Yeşilyurt told Today's Zaman. Yeşilyurt underlined that couples fail in their marriages because of their inadequate knowledge about what it means to be married before saying yes to one another. She also claims that marriages based either solely on love or families getting on well are doomed to fail.
Marriages statistics indicate that, compared with men, the rate of women under 30 asking for a divorce is quite high. The roles reverse after 30, as men show a dramatic increase in demanding divorce after that age.
Mehmet Wrote:(November 19, 2013 at 10:40 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: Having a biological two parent family is optimal, certainly.True, very true. But we did have set a standard, do we not?
However, children raised in a nuclear family can still turn out to be troublemakers. There is absolutely no guarantee that the child/ren will turn out fine just because he has a biological mother and father.
Studies also indicate that children raised in single parent, same sex, or any other type of non-traditional household grow up to be happy, productive citizens of society.
I'm sure that they coud grow up to be happy and productive members of society in a society that is compromised entirely of gays. But in a society where we state that the biological two parent family is the optimal one, it will only breed confusion and hardships for the child.
Who states this? You? I'd hardly say you should be able to speak for an entire class of people, Mehmet. You kill goats for fun.
Mehmet Wrote:So I profess here and now that the whole idea of this gay parenting is to challenge and mock the standards that have been set for the ideal family.
You feel mocked? Oh my, let me just hand you a tissue you little baby.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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