Proving God Existence

[paulpablo]

You can't possibly know any of this - you have no experience with it, you have no evidence of it.
You have thrown reason out the window.

Exactly,
Science or observation cannot know anything about what is outside
Only logic can be used and the proof is based only on logic that is why it is irrefutable

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This quote doesn't imply he made the universe from water either, it just says his throne was on some water at some point, doesn't give a time specification.

Yes, it is not very clear if this water existed or God created it, or created the universe from it
Most Islamic Scholars says it was the first creation, then God's throne then the universe

And it still doesn't say anywhere that god did create the universe from water in any hadith or in any part of the quran that I've read.