RE: New Levels of Low
November 22, 2013 at 8:55 am
(This post was last modified: November 22, 2013 at 9:05 am by Lion IRC.)
Hey, that's part and parcel to the scope of the debate.
You have to persuade people to the view that all the "bad stuff" comes necessarily from the existence of "True Christianity" and that Christians can't take any credit for the good stuff because good stuff happens anyway no matter what people think. And that bad stuff, when it's happens, CAN easily be attributed to Christianity because bad stuff DOESN'T EVER HAPPEN UNLESS Christians are around.
That is what we are debating.
You might think its and open and shut case.
...but you have someone who disagrees.
If you want to re-frame the debate topic or the scope/definitions speak up!
Chat to your fellow atheists. See if they have any suggestions for an alternatively worded debate proposition.
I think it is important that we have a benchmark for reference to say what reasonably qualifies as the fruits of Christianity. Otherwise, someone posts a newspaper headline about a serial killer claiming Jesus made them do it.
You can CLAIM that Christian clergy commit pedophile crimes but in the debate, I am going to quote from Colossians and Matthew with a counter-argument that Jesus says pedophiles deserve millstones around their necks.
You have to persuade people to the view that all the "bad stuff" comes necessarily from the existence of "True Christianity" and that Christians can't take any credit for the good stuff because good stuff happens anyway no matter what people think. And that bad stuff, when it's happens, CAN easily be attributed to Christianity because bad stuff DOESN'T EVER HAPPEN UNLESS Christians are around.
That is what we are debating.
You might think its and open and shut case.
...but you have someone who disagrees.
If you want to re-frame the debate topic or the scope/definitions speak up!
Chat to your fellow atheists. See if they have any suggestions for an alternatively worded debate proposition.
I think it is important that we have a benchmark for reference to say what reasonably qualifies as the fruits of Christianity. Otherwise, someone posts a newspaper headline about a serial killer claiming Jesus made them do it.
You can CLAIM that Christian clergy commit pedophile crimes but in the debate, I am going to quote from Colossians and Matthew with a counter-argument that Jesus says pedophiles deserve millstones around their necks.
