(November 22, 2013 at 9:29 am)missluckie26 Wrote: Oh Lion.. You still don't understand? We aren't debating who is and isn't a Christian, we're debating the effects of said religion. Just the fact that someone quotes it as reasoning for their actions is enough to attribute it to Christianity.
I'm not going to hop into a debate with you when you don't even know the perimeters of the debate itself. This is why I'm asking you for clarification. Fact is, you set out a topic a day ago, and are now shutting down avenues of discussion by adding on more qualifiers to it after the debate has been agreed upon under different terms. Which is plain out, dishonest.
The topic is set. I'm ready to go.
It's actually you who is trying to have the debate before its even started and making demands that I qualify things for you lest you bail-out.
I have (quite reasonably) provided you an advance indication of how I am going to frame my argument with respect to what constitutes Christianity/Christians.
Naturally, I expect you wil be objecting to me claiming credit for "good stuff" done by people who you may argue, would have done the same thing even if they were Hindus, Jews, Muslims, etc. And obviously, I assume you are going to try to make a case that certain "bad stuff" can only be because the person was nominally/allegedly a 'Christian' obediently acting exactly according to the basic tenets of Christianity. You are welcome to argue that Nazism and the holocaust makes Jesus and Christians happy and joyous and that therefore Christianity is bad for humanity. I, on the other hand, am going to argue AGAINST that proposition.
And I have graciously given you advance warning that any "bad stuff" you attempt to raise will be closely inspected to see how closely it matches the theological distinctives which form the basic ideals of Christianity and which give us a bench mark to compare whether Hitler was walking the walk or just talking the talk as politicians so often do. (Did you know JFK went to great lengths to assure voters he would never let his Christian religion interfere with his job as a politician?)
