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[Optimistic Mysanthrope]

I completely agree. Although I also extend that view to include volcano gods.

There are actually an endless list of cartoon gods, golf course gods, and reality-show gods I find particularly boring, so i omitted them from this discussion. Motorcycle gods, and a few others i find more interesting, but alas, they don't make the cut for real God candidacy at this time. So far, only one seems logical.

Yeah, um....that's the one I was referring to.

Because, If god exists in the universe, but dwells in another dimension (which physics describes 11 or so dimensions according to sting theory, if i remember correctly) and is timeless, ie., claims to know the beginning from and the end, and has always existed, that by definition is an infinite being. Physics also accounts for things that exist with no physical mass, such as photons, which move at the speed of light, which from their perspective (if they had one) would be of infinite time. To be omni-present and all-knowing, infinity would be an obvious prerequisite.

If god dwells in another dimension of this universe (which is kinda silly, you may as say that god lives in the Y axis), if god is timeless, if god is omnipresent and if god is all-knowing.

You haven't demonstrated why a real god has to have these qualities and it's probably just as well.

Again, an infinite God encompasses all the God-needs of the universe, there need not be any other applications. The position has been filled.

Just because something doesn't need to exist doesn't mean that it can't exist. Why can't there be more than one infinite being? More importantly, what is an infinite being?

While I admire Niels Bohr's contributions to humanity, he only described the mechanical process of what we observe. He didn't actually do it. Gandalf, even in his younger years couldn't have pulled it off, I'm talking about the cool Gandalf from the book, not Peter Jackson's abortion.

You seem to have missed the point. There are literary accounts of both Niels Bohr and Gandalf, but only one of them has objective evidence to support claims of their existence.

Now re-read the above sentence but substitute "Niels Bohr" for "Big Bang" and "Gandalf" for "creation of the universe by supernatural means".

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How about this: The Almighty One created the universe and all life within to be His personal playground, filled with a self replenishing supply of potential victims to torture, mutilate and generally fuck with. He created us in His own image, that we might emulate His nature and inflict His abominable will upon each other. He gave us rules that we might break them. He gave us guilt that we might torture ourselves and He made us love so that we feel loss all the more. Diseases were created to plague us. He then created religions and set them against each another, all so that we might kill, maim, torture, persecute and oppress one another, while dedicating our lives to the worship of the Great Infernal One; billions of souls, crying out in a sycophantic exaltation of a God that doesn't love you and a world that doesn't care.

Now tell how that differs from reality.

While even on my most trying days, my view of the world isn't quite that dismal, the world does seem to frequently make me wonder how much further we can veer of track before our wagon goes sailing off the sidewalk. Yes, we as humans are nasty turds. We only can declare ourselves as nasty turds because we can imagine what it should have been. We always compare our situations to the unspoken moral law that exists, and has always existed within us. But, we're not supposed to admit that, because it brings in a host of complicated ramifications. We know innately when we do a dirty thing to someone. Guilt is an inseparable thing hardwired into us to remind us we are falling short of what we innately know to have been true and right. If we think divorcing ourselves from guilt will ease our troubled minds, it won't work. The world doesn't go away when we close our eyes. When we start deleting parts of the societal operating system, the thing will crash. And when things crash hard in this modern age, the Astrodome post- Katrina would look like a nice vacation getaway. When removing a fence, it is a good idea to find out why it was put there in the first place. We are blindly following in our poor ole Roman ancestor's footsteps towards an utter failure of epic magnitude.
Glad to keep the discussion light.

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Ok, so are you saying that my brief description of a world created by a wholly evil god conforms to reality or not? If not, why? If it does, why do you think that claims a wholly benevolent god have any merit beyond wishful thinking?

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I couldn't help but notice your lack of rebuttal to my example of a "direct" quote of a claim from God that has been proven to be false. By own admission, such an example disproves god.