(November 25, 2013 at 10:49 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(November 25, 2013 at 5:12 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Go back and read that thread again and try to learn something about the ONTOLOGICAL existence of evil which is NOT a creation of God but which arises philosophically and consists in the thoughts/actions of those who think and do evil which is OTHER than the "good".
Here's a little koan to help you get a grip on this.
"Does nothing exist?"
... or is it merely the incidental word we use as an ontological idea.
I'm surprised non-stamp collectors...err...I mean atheists have difficulty with this.
Oh, okay. I apologize then.
Turns out you're only in conflict with your own bible, and not your earlier position.
No, your discussion with Godschild was talking about a different scriptural meaning/context of the word evil - the exegesis of which is, calamities, distresses or tribulations
and which God sometimes DOES cause.
You see, language has this remarkable tendency to change over time and words CAN have two meanings. Your black and white reasoning let you down.
You were attempting to argue that God causes evil based on one verse and extrapolating that equally/equivocally to other contexts of the word evil.
Godschild was (correctly) pointing out that God does not cause the evil which arises in the ontological context.