RE: Christians, what is your VERY BEST arguments for the existence of God?
February 10, 2010 at 11:44 am
(February 10, 2010 at 10:51 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Fact is Evie you redefine to make it work in your mind.
As I already explained, I'm not redefining anything.
Quote:So by the same token, I can tell you about God and what you can expect, and you no longer can have blind faith.. correct?
If I believe in something without evidence then I believe on blind faith. I don't see how this applies to me?
Quote:BECAUSE FAITH CAN'T HAVE EVIDENCEWhich is why I consider it an idiotic thing to believe with. No evidence= no valid reason to believe because valid reason to believe equates to evidence.
Quote: ...had you considered even for a moment??I know that faith can't evidence. That's why I consider it - crazy.
fr0d0 Wrote:YES WE FUCKING KNOW you do!
Well I'm just trying to make myself clear is all. As I'm sure you are too.
Quote:It's called faith Evie.I know what it's called, and I know that I don't understand how it is considered at all reasonable when it is belief that lacks evidence. Surely belief without evidence shouldn't be held if we are to be rational here?
Quote: Think about it or don't. Just don't vomit words all over here when you don't want to fucking think about it.
I am thinking about it. I'm trying. My point is that if you believe in the existence of something without evidence then that is believing in something for no valid reason - because if it was valid it would equate to evidence (how many times have I said this)...
So... whatever valid reasons you may believe you have for having faith in God.... faith itself lacks any evidence, your belief in God is without evidence, so your belief in God is irrational/unreasonable - and seen as the complexity of God and the amount of evidence that would be required for the belief to be rational... if that doesn't equate to a delusion then I don't know what does.
EvF