RE: God is timeless
December 5, 2013 at 11:50 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2013 at 11:51 am by Fidel_Castronaut.)
(December 5, 2013 at 11:41 am)Rational AKD Wrote:(December 5, 2013 at 11:36 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: And it's entirely speculation because nobody has evidence that any of these god thingys even exist!
Hence mental masturbation. It's the same as saying "Suppose X exists. Let's invent all the attributes that X must have!"
So you'll forgive us for not caring about all the superfluous attributes of something that doesn't have any evidence it's even there to have superfluous attributes.
postulating possibilities and implications of those possibilities is important to philosophy. whether you think it's useful or not is irrelevant. I posted the vids to answer the OP, not to prove the existence of God and the vids successfully answer his question without diverting or bringing up meaningless analogies.
I 100% agree with you. So long as whatever a god is remains entirely in the realm of 'possibilities'. But you missed the point of my analogy. But that's ok.
Now you can obfuscate your response however way you want and claim that the thread (and your response) has nothing to do with evidence, but the fact remains is that you believe (I presume) that a god of some sort (again, whatever that is) exists and does 'things' the world/reality we inhabit. Right?
The assertion in the OP is "God is Timeless". What's the presumption there? That [a] god exists, naturally. So, to play the game, we have to start from that assumption and go from there.
My analogy was to say there's no more reason to accept that presumption either scientifically or philosophically than, say, whether a chair cares about seeing our arses every day when we sit down on it.
The fact that people not only talk about god on a philosophical plane, but a further, a scientific plane, and further interweave the two. means that this conversation isn't and never has been purely about "possibilities" and the implications of those "possibilities". It's started from a statement of scientific and objective fact, and built presuppositions on that.
That is why we dismiss it, and we ask why we should care about it.
Can you give us a reason?