(December 5, 2013 at 1:35 pm)FreeTony Wrote: How do you know time has a cause?
it's presupposed in order to explain pocaracas' objection that God can't cause time since that presupposes time without time.
Quote:How can you use the word simultaneous, meaning at the same time, when time at that point time does not exist? (Even I am making assumptions about time here)in the sense i'm using it, simultaneous would mean without an interval of time between. if 2 events in time can occur without an interval of time between them, why is it inconceivable for them to happen without time?
Quote:You go from possible to must with no explanation.if it is possible for simultaneous causations to occur, and time had a cause, those could only be the case if the cause of time had a simultaneous causation with time. the other option, that it was not simultaneous, is impossible.
Quote:As my previous post, these discussions involving "before the big bang" become meaningless as we don't have the understanding to really make any statements at all. Again we need science.as I've said, possibilities can still be explored for multiple theories with philosophy.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
-Galileo